Hmm at work I have 10MB/sec ethernet connection and up on campus in the public clusters it's the same. At work I run Netrek 2000 on a P200 which isnt slow but isnt fast either, but my lag is low and client runs very smoothly. Yesterday I was playing with BRMH 2.3 client in Slowaris one a Sun Ultra-1 Creator up on campus and my lag was similiarly low yet I noticed 2 curious things: 1) torps move MUCH faster 2) flight time seems much longer I don't know what updates/sec was set to. How can I manually force the updates/sec in rc file for both clients so I may see if this is the cause of odd behaviour? SDG, Zach uram at cmu.edu "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have faith." - John 20:29