Player database works on a newly compiled server (from cvs), I had to provide glib and gdbm which were not required before. I also had to edit system.mk and add gdbm to extralibs giving: EXTRALIBS = $(LINKFLAGS) -lnsl -lm -lgdbm NO_DUPLICATE_HOSTS kills PreT for me. (one robot comes on), I'm not sure why you think it might not kill them as they connect like clients? an exception for 127.0.0.1 isn't even enough (for me) as my linux distro connects back with a source address of its ip rather than local. I'm happy to disable the feature for now in any case just thought it was worth mentioning. Should something like this be in .sysdef? perhaps with an exception list? all very well for me to say things like that when I cant code ;) Pathetically I havnt done much on my server so I'll take a look at my metaserver problems today and see if I cant get things online properly Dave PS. What's the best way to shutdown a running server? _______________________________________________ vanilla-devel mailing list vanilla-devel at us.netrek.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/vanilla-devel