I'm sorry to have to bring this to a public forum, but it's an issue that affects the netrek community, and I'm at a loss of what to do. In May 2006, I was router blocked from connecting to sage.real-time.com, the machine that hosts both the metaserver and the continuum server, after using multiple slots to register 2 ban votes to ban people on the continuum server. Since that time, both limitations on slots per IP and minimum ban vote requirements (4 votes minimum) have been put in place. Since that time I have apologized, to both Quozl and Tanner. No response from Tanner. There was then a period, when my sturgeon server was between hosts, in which I attempted to run the server from my local address. Of course, with the server not being able to communicate with the metaserver due to the block, it limited the ability for people to play there. Myself and multiple people asked for the server to be able to be listed, again no response. In the interim, I have put in a ton of work on both client and server development (I think it's fair to say I've been the most active contributor to netrek development in the past year). I've released a client which is used by a significant portion of the playerbase. I've helped revive the dead status of netrek organized games by starting a new mailing list (to replace the unused netrek at us.netrek.org list) that now has close to 30 members, and has been responsible in great part for 3 successful clue games, the first such games in years. Of course, a great deal of "getting the word out" to the netrek community happens directly at the places where the netrek games are played, and for the most part this has been the continuum server. I have used proxy software to get around the router block (for the client at least) in order to reach the netrek players, to advertise my client, to advertise clue games, and to provide tech support for people who use my client. Needless to say, I don't like having to use a proxy, the connect is unreliable, the lag is too great to play, and it wastes a great deal of time that is spent on actually connecting to continuum. But even with this large obstacle placed in the way of what I consider progress in netrek, I said nothing. Recents events with regards to metaserver policy (i.e. not listing all servers) have led me to merge the COW UDP metaserver code into my client - one of the features of the UDP metaserver is the ability to collect data from multiple metaservers and display it simultaneously. Needless to say, actually testing this code is greatly inhibited by the fact that I could only connect to 1 metaserver. After 7 months, of multiple attempts to contact Bob Tanner, and many contributions to netrek development, I finally manged to get my development environment set up at a new, non-blocked IP. Within a day I had discovered 2 UDP metaserver bugs that I had not previously been able to see due to not being able to reach both metaservers. I fixed one, and was in the process of debugging the other, when I found myself again IP blocked from sage.real-time.com. Again, with no word from Tanner. So here I am, wondering what the hell should I do? Bob Tanner owns much of the netrek infrastructure, yet I cannot access it, and I cannot properly debug a client due to his actions. I'm seriously considering removing metaserver.us.netrek.org from the UDP metaserver in my client (would keep it for the TCP metaserver), and instead just use 1 metaserver. Granted, I *could* make that 1 UDP metaserver be on the box Bob owns, but giving how he has treated me, why would I want to have my client rely on anything he controls? I feel I can't trust him to do the right thing for the community , or for the people who use my client. I feel he's out of touch with the community, evidenced by how the community has moved around things under his control, as seen with the creation of an independent, player-managed mailing list for netrek games, as well as a large number of people who now use metaserver2. What I want to know is, what would people do in my situation? I don't want to penalize the players by limiting for my inability to interact with Bob Tanner, but it's getting to a point where it's having a serious effect on both my ability and desire to work on a client. Part of me worries he'll ask for my client to be taken down from netrek.org as well, seeing as that server is also hosted by real-time. I just don't know what to do. Maybe someone can help resolve this, I would appreciate it greatly. I'm frustrated to a point where I just can't hold it in any longer. Bill