Moin to all curious and brave enough to try, but especially to James T.C.: get a Paradise client (RSA not needed, so you can get the source and compile yourself, or if you're restricted to windos, then try Bill's current win-client efforts once he releases a test version) and connect to paradise.homeunix.org I'm curious to learn how James likes this compared to Bronco. To the list-owner: Rob tried to post a similar announcement himself, but didn't get through even though subscribed. Maybe you can clear it up for him. -- © Rado S. -- You must provide YOUR effort for your goal! EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude. You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.