From netrek at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 19:04:48 2008
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zach)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:48 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] Greets
Message-ID: <ecfa260c0801081704r28897570w42d6c57c12c15bae@mail.gmail.com>

This list sure has been quiet in recent months. I noticed paradise has
a doosh stat, any interest in implementing this for Vanilla server?
Also what is the status of the Paradise <-> Vanilla code merger. I
guess paradise servers can't be listed on the metaserver until that
merger is complete?

Zach


From msucka0xff at programmer.net  Wed Jan  9 19:07:29 2008
From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 17:07:29 -0800
Subject: [netrek-dev] VMware or Qemu image of Netrek Server Vanilla
	2.12.1
Message-ID: <20080110010729.212001CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>

Folks,

This write up describes how to install Debian on Colinux on a windows based OS. After you will need to install the netrek server. I have tested this and it shows to be a good method to run the latest Vanilla server binaries on a Windows based computer. Sorry for the delay, the write up has been available for some time, but there are revisions that have not yet been incorporated. Some time in the future, I should rewrite, update colinx wiki, and place in netrek darcs for the most up to date versions of colinux and netrek server. Since this version describes the older config.xml configuration file format, using the newer format will takes some careful considerations, but is possible, as I have done already. 

-bd

http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/InstallDebianFromIsoShort

Short Goal : install a working Debian sarge/etch image from scratch, with a rather easy to use installer.

Get a businesscard ISO Debian

(NOTE: These instructions were done with sarge on 6 Oct 2004, but should work for any Linux ISO. Installed for Etch on 21 Sept 2007 using debian-40r1-i386-businesscard.iso with some modifications as noted below.)

Using daemon tools (http://www.daemon-tools.cc) to mount the image or an archiver program (http://www.tugzip.com) to extract files get initrd.gz out of \install on the CD. Extract initrd from initrd.gz and place it in a directory with your filesystems. (NOTE: The file may be in \boot or another dir if you're using a different distro, but will still be named initrd.gz)
Start with a configuration similar to this (this assumes root.fs is a blank ext3 formatted filesystem file):
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<colinux>
    <block_device index="0" path="\[[DosDevices]]\D:\Downloads\[[coLinux]]\root.fs" enabled="true" />
    <block_device index="1" path="\[[DosDevices]]\D:\Downloads\[[coLinux]]\swap.fs" enabled="true" />
    <block_device index="2" path="\[[DosDevices]]\D:\Downloads\[[coLinux]]\sarge-i386-businesscard.iso" enabled="true" />
    <block_device index="3" path="\[[DosDevices]]\D:\Downloads\[[coLinux]]\initrd" enabled="true" />
    <bootparams>root=/dev/cobd3</bootparams>
    <initrd path="initrd.gz" />
    <image path="vmlinux" />
    <memory size="128" />
    <network index="0" type="bridged" name="Local" />
</colinux>

Boot colinux normally and wait for the installer to load. Choose to manually find CD. Choose "None" for CD ROM driver, then choose "/dev/cobd/2" for path. This should get you up to "No partitionable media is found". Press Alt+F2, then Enter.
mkdir /target
mount /dev/cobd/0 /target
cd /target
(this will "lock" this directory as mounted no matter what the partition step tries to do) Press Alt+F1, choose to continue install anyway. (50 Mb will be downloaded) Installing kernel then errors out, choose continue anyway. (choose a 2.6 something, related to your CPU of course) Don't install LILO or GRUB, choose finalize installation. There will be a few errors, choose continue anyway. Start a shell, edit /target/etc/fstab with nano and change it as so:
/dev/cobd0      /       ext3    defaults        1       1
/dev/cobd1      none    swap    sw              0       0
then make some coLinux block devices :
cd /target/dev
mknod cobd0 b 117 0
mknod cobd1 b 117 1
mknod cobd2 b 117 2
mknod cobd3 b 117 3
and reboot. Change your configuration to boot from cobd0 like so:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<colinux>
    <block_device index="0" path="\[[DosDevices]]\D:\Downloads\[[coLinux]]\root.fs" enabled="true" />
    <block_device index="1" path="\[[DosDevices]]\D:\Downloads\[[coLinux]]\swap.fs" enabled="true" />
    <bootparams>root=/dev/cobd0</bootparams>
    <initrd path="initrd.gz" />
    <image path="vmlinux" />
    <memory size="128" />
    <network index="0" type="bridged" name="Local" />
</colinux>
Boot, login as root,
apt-get update
apt-get install module-init-tools
reboot (just for good measure)
Should be at a fully working (yet minimal) debian install! don't forget to adjust your network configuration (like /etc/resolv.conf) and run apt-get clean to get rid of about 50 Mb you just downloaded.
[edit] History
originally written by <SKroWL> (very nice job), later updated with link to woody and edited for clarity.
checked and validated by <Gniarf>, using snapshot 0622 and this Debian Sarge installer : http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20041006/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso
[edit] Further notes
<Gniarf> The <initrd> section is not strictly necessary, I didn't had one.
<Gniarf> if you can't make the network work, I guess you can use the sarge-i386-netinst.iso instead. not tried yet.
<OscarUsifer> For Etch, you'll need to remove the /dev/mem, /dev/kmem and /dev/core, then recreate the nodes with device node 1:3 (same as /dev/null) using the same mknod command mentioned earlier at the install step as noted above in virtual console 1 (vc1). You can observe the install progress in vc3 & vc4.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ". ." <msucka0xff at programmer.net>
> To: "Netrek Development Mailing List" <netrek-dev at us.netrek.org>
> Subject: Re: [netrek-dev] VMware or Qemu image of Netrek Server Vanilla	2.12.1
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:42:22 -0800
> 
> 
> Folks, Hmm good idea, I'll do a write up as well. It was very tricky to
> get it installed from the business card iso, but the results are really
> good I believe. In conjunction with cygwin's X11, it's possible to ssh -X
> to the debian Colinux install (from windows cygwin), and run X apps, so
> if the netrek server had console X/TCL app controls, one could access it.
> Actually my image when all is installed correctly is 553M, which could
> prob be reduced if desired, and when gz/bzipped it would be smaller in
> case Bob or Quozl thought it useful to host on ftp.netrek.org. This is
> really an ideal situation, e.g. running the netrek server as a native
> Linux app on Windows, and I feel this is a good situation given the
> alternatives e.g. porting to cygwin, or windows. Esp when the server goes
> through revisions, it can more directly be patched. -bd
> 
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: "James Cameron"
>    Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:02:47 +1000
> 
> 
>    I've written up the process to create a Debian based virtual
>    appliance
>    for a Netrek Server, placing it in
>    docs/README.debian-virtual-appliance
>    in my repository, and attached.
> 
>    Unlike the previous post, this image is a mere 127Mb. ;-)
> 
>    One based on OpenWrt x86 should be about 3Mb. There's a lot of cruft
>    in
>    a standard Debian install.
> 
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From netrek at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 21:38:53 2008
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zach)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:38:53 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] VMware or Qemu image of Netrek Server Vanilla
	2.12.1
In-Reply-To: <20080110010729.212001CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080110010729.212001CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <ecfa260c0801091938m6a62fc80ifcf09bff928dd2db@mail.gmail.com>

Good work Jay.

Zach


From akb+lists.netrek-dev at mirror.to  Wed Jan 16 13:45:53 2008
From: akb+lists.netrek-dev at mirror.to (Andrew K. Bressen)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:45:53 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] Greets
In-Reply-To: <ecfa260c0801081704r28897570w42d6c57c12c15bae@mail.gmail.com>
	(Zach's message of "Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:48 -0500")
References: <ecfa260c0801081704r28897570w42d6c57c12c15bae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0q1w8h4kr2.fsf@lanconius.mirror.to>


Zach <netrek at gmail.com> writes:
> Also what is the status of the Paradise <-> Vanilla code merger. I

is anyone working on it?

> guess paradise servers can't be listed on the metaserver until that
> merger is complete?

or the meta code could be ported from vanilla to paradise if anyone cared to...



From quozl at us.netrek.org  Wed Jan 16 15:58:32 2008
From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:58:32 +1100
Subject: [netrek-dev] Greets
In-Reply-To: <0q1w8h4kr2.fsf@lanconius.mirror.to>
References: <ecfa260c0801081704r28897570w42d6c57c12c15bae@mail.gmail.com>
	<0q1w8h4kr2.fsf@lanconius.mirror.to>
Message-ID: <20080116215832.GA4084@us.netrek.org>

On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:45:53PM -0500, Andrew K. Bressen wrote:
> or the meta code could be ported from vanilla to paradise if anyone
> cared to...

When I wrote the metaserver solicitation code, I also wrote it for
Paradise, tested it, and submitted the patch to the Paradise subproject,
and I thought it was accepted.  I didn't follow up though.  It seemed to
work, we had a Paradise server soliciting.

-- 
James Cameron    mailto:quozl at us.netrek.org     http://quozl.netrek.org/


From msucka0xff at programmer.net  Tue Jan 22 00:38:09 2008
From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:38:09 -0800
Subject: [netrek-dev] paradise-2000-rc6.tar client has expired
Message-ID: <20080122063809.6F63F1CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>

bd at frag:~/paradise-2000$ ./paradise-2000 -h continuum.us.netrek.org -p
2592
I'm sorry, but this client has expired.  You may bypass the expire by
using the -o option which disables RSA authentication.  You can find a
new
set of binaries on ftp.netrek.org
See http://www.speakeasy.org/~xyzzy/netrek/ for more information. If you
have any problems mail to paradise-workers at goof.com or
xyzzy at speakeasy.org

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From msucka0xff at programmer.net  Tue Jan 22 00:41:03 2008
From: msucka0xff at programmer.net (. .)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:41:03 -0800
Subject: [netrek-dev] paradise-2000-rc6.tar client has expired
Message-ID: <20080122064103.47F6611581F@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com>

mail to paradise-workers at goof.com bounces.


bd at frag:~/paradise-2000$ ./paradise-2000 -h continuum.us.netrek.org -p 2592
I'm sorry, but this client has expired.  You may bypass the expire by
using the -o option which disables RSA authentication.  You can find a new
set of binaries on ftp.netrek.org
See http://www.speakeasy.org/~xyzzy/netrek/ for more information. If you
have any problems mail to paradise-workers at goof.com or xyzzy at speakeasy.org

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From jrd at gerdesas.com  Tue Jan 22 00:44:20 2008
From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:44:20 -0600
Subject: [netrek-dev] paradise-2000-rc6.tar client has expired
In-Reply-To: <20080122063809.6F63F1CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080122063809.6F63F1CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <20080122064419.GC30526@mail.beanhq.com>

On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 10:38:09PM -0800, . . wrote:
> bd at frag:~/paradise-2000$ ./paradise-2000 -h continuum.us.netrek.org -p
> 2592
> I'm sorry, but this client has expired.  You may bypass the expire by
> using the -o option which disables RSA authentication.  You can find a
> new
> set of binaries on ftp.netrek.org
> See http://www.speakeasy.org/~xyzzy/netrek/ for more information. If you
> have any problems mail to paradise-workers at goof.com or
> xyzzy at speakeasy.org

	Or the keys can just be removed as it's the only closed sourced
	netrek client :)




							John


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From billbalcerski at gmail.com  Tue Jan 22 01:32:19 2008
From: billbalcerski at gmail.com (Bill Balcerski)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:32:19 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] paradise-2000-rc6.tar client has expired
In-Reply-To: <20080122063809.6F63F1CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20080122063809.6F63F1CE7A2@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <45ab86180801212332w12ed00mf6cccac8b5e5a780@mail.gmail.com>

The new paradise mailing list is paradise-workers at lists.netrek.org
For what it's worth.
Bill

> See http://www.speakeasy.org/~xyzzy/netrek/ for more information. If you
> have any problems mail to paradise-workers at goof.com or xyzzy at speakeasy.org


From ahn at orion.netrek.org  Thu Jan 31 12:05:47 2008
From: ahn at orion.netrek.org (Dave Ahn)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:05:47 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] EFF Patent Busting Project and Netrek
Message-ID: <20080131180547.GA25311@orion.netrek.org>

Folks,

For your reading pleasure, see the EFF announcement about their re-exam
request of the Goldberg patent:

http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/01/30

Dave



From netrek at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 15:18:34 2008
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zach)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:18:34 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] EFF Patent Busting Project and Netrek
In-Reply-To: <20080131180547.GA25311@orion.netrek.org>
References: <20080131180547.GA25311@orion.netrek.org>
Message-ID: <ecfa260c0801311318k18fa5304i14e64c728f44f867@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Dave,

That Goldberg sounds like a POS.

Zach

On Jan 31, 2008 1:05 PM, Dave Ahn <ahn at orion.netrek.org> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> For your reading pleasure, see the EFF announcement about their re-exam
> request of the Goldberg patent:
>
> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/01/30
>
> Dave
>
>
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