Bill raises some valid points. I am also concerned this will lead to undesirable behaviour such as newbies and semi-clue just deciding to not even engage rather than risk a penalty. For example if you are defending a planet alone versus carrier + escort and you have reinforcements coming it is often possible to slow then down by asstorping as you ever so slowly move back from front of planet giving your teammates time to advance and assist. Also there are other scenarios such as when you are escorting a carrier and your only way to stop the SC ogger is by firing sideways. The non-intuitive nature of the costs is also problematic as Bill mentioned. I fear this could lead to an even wore situation where instead of the player engaging, albeit via buttorping, they just run away and don't engage at all, and wait for an 'ideal' (in their view) scenario. Zach <>< http://www.fidei.org ><>