From netrek at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 12:42:08 2011 From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:42:08 -0700 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics Message-ID: <4e2daaf036ac4_74e0..fdba378d81921691@walrus.academia.me.tmail> >Hi Netrek, Zachary Uram added your name to Academia.edu, the global directory of academics and graduate students. We checked your department directory, and it looks like you are an academic/graduate student. You are currently listed as an 'unknown' academic/graduate student: resolve your 'unknown' status by following one of the links below: Yes, I am an academic/graduate student: http://academia.edu/Yes-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--is-an-academic-or-graduate-student No, I am not an academic/graduate student: http://academia.edu/Remove-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--from-the-directory-of-academics Stephen Hawking, Richard Dawkins, Paul Krugman, Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker have all confirmed their membership of their departments on Academia.edu. Thanks, The Academia.edu Team -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From netrek at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 16:47:04 2011 From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:47:04 -0400 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I did not add anyone's name. It said it would invite friends from my Gmail address book. It was clear it was only an invitation. If it did more than that then it lied to me and is breaking the law. Sorry you were subscribed but I had no idea it would do that. You can verify this by opening up a throwaway email account through Gmail, signing up and selecting invite friends option you will see it says it is only inviting them not adding them. Then it apparently proceeds to subscribe every address. So I really did not know this would happen. Sorry again. Seems this is bogus site but it sure seemed legit. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: > [image: Academia.edu] > > Hi Netrek, > > Zachary Uram added your name to Academia.edu, the global directory of > academics and graduate students. We checked your department directory, and > it looks like you are an academic/graduate student. You are currently listed > as an 'unknown' academic/graduate student: resolve your 'unknown' status by > following one of the links below: > > Yes, I am an academic/graduate student: > > http://academia.edu/Yes-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--is-an-academic-or-graduate-student > > No, I am not an academic/graduate student: > > http://academia.edu/Remove-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--from-the-directory-of-academics > > Stephen Hawking, Richard Dawkins, Paul Krugman, Noam Chomsky and Steven > Pinker have all confirmed their membership of their departments on > Academia.edu. > > Thanks, > The Academia.edu Team > > Academia.edu's office is at: 251 Kearny St., Suite 520, San Francisco, CA, > 94108. To opt out of receiving these kinds of emails from Academia.edu, go > to: http://academia.edu/optout/ > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev > > -- Zach http://www.fidei.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jrd at gerdesas.com Mon Jul 25 16:53:45 2011 From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:53:45 -0500 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20110725215345.GG30609@frodo.gerdesas.com> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 05:47:04PM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > I did not add anyone's name. It said it would invite friends from my Gmail > address book. It was clear it was only an invitation. If it did more than > that then it lied to me and is breaking the law. Sorry you were subscribed > but I had no idea it would do that. You can verify this by opening up a > throwaway email account through Gmail, signing up and selecting invite > friends option you will see it says it is only inviting them not adding > them. Then it apparently proceeds to subscribe every address. So I really > did not know this would happen. Sorry again. Seems this is bogus site but it > sure seemed legit. The question is did you top your previous total of 701? I've yet to investigate the impact that your actions had on me personally but I've noticed that I got this nonsense on multiple addresses, including service addresses. I am not pleased. John -- Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does. -- William James (1842-1910), American Psychologist, Professor, Author -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From netrek at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 17:16:12 2011 From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:16:12 -0400 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: <20110725215345.GG30609@frodo.gerdesas.com> References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <20110725215345.GG30609@frodo.gerdesas.com> Message-ID: Sorry it did that. It said it would search Gmail address book for friends, and it found like 3 people and added them as friends. Then it listed all of my Gmail contacts and asked if I wanted to send invitations and I clicked cancel. So it never should have even sent out invites let alone subscribing people. They should be investigated. I sent them a complaint email: feedback at academia.edu On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:53 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 05:47:04PM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: >> I did not add anyone's name. It said it would invite friends from my Gmail >> address book. It was clear it was only an invitation. If it did more than >> that then it lied to me and is breaking the law. Sorry you were subscribed >> but I had no idea it would do that. You can verify this by opening up a >> throwaway email account through Gmail, signing up and selecting invite >> friends option you will see it says it is only inviting them not adding >> them. Then it apparently proceeds to subscribe every address. So I really >> did not know this would happen. Sorry again. Seems this is bogus site but it >> sure seemed legit. > > The question is did you top your previous total of 701? > > I've yet to investigate the impact that your actions had on me > personally but I've noticed that I got this nonsense on multiple > addresses, including service addresses. > > I am not pleased. > > > > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?John > -- > Act as if what you do makes a difference. ?It does. > > -- William James (1842-1910), American Psychologist, Professor, Author > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev > > -- Zach http://www.fidei.org From jeffrey.w.watts at gmail.com Tue Jul 26 11:27:06 2011 From: jeffrey.w.watts at gmail.com (Jeffrey Watts) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:27:06 -0500 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: My larger complaint Zach is that it seems that you add me to EVERY social media service you sign up for. Please stop. If you are compelled to invite your entire Gmail contacts list to everything that you do then please remove my email address from your listing. Thanks, Jeffrey. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: > I did not add anyone's name. It said it would invite friends from my Gmail > address book. It was clear it was only an invitation. If it did more than > that then it lied to me and is breaking the law. Sorry you were subscribed > but I had no idea it would do that. You can verify this by opening up a > throwaway email account through Gmail, signing up and selecting invite > friends option you will see it says it is only inviting them not adding > them. Then it apparently proceeds to subscribe every address. So I really > did not know this would happen. Sorry again. Seems this is bogus site but it > sure seemed legit. > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: > >> [image: Academia.edu] >> >> Hi Netrek, >> >> Zachary Uram added your name to Academia.edu, the global directory of >> academics and graduate students. We checked your department directory, and >> it looks like you are an academic/graduate student. You are currently listed >> as an 'unknown' academic/graduate student: resolve your 'unknown' status by >> following one of the links below: >> >> Yes, I am an academic/graduate student: >> >> http://academia.edu/Yes-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--is-an-academic-or-graduate-student >> >> No, I am not an academic/graduate student: >> >> http://academia.edu/Remove-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--from-the-directory-of-academics >> >> Stephen Hawking, Richard Dawkins, Paul Krugman, Noam Chomsky and Steven >> Pinker have all confirmed their membership of their departments on >> Academia.edu. >> >> Thanks, >> The Academia.edu Team >> >> Academia.edu's office is at: 251 Kearny St., Suite 520, San Francisco, CA, >> 94108. To opt out of receiving these kinds of emails from Academia.edu, go >> to: http://academia.edu/optout/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> netrek-dev mailing list >> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org >> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev >> >> > > > -- > Zach > http://www.fidei.org > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From darius at dons.net.au Tue Jul 26 18:07:55 2011 From: darius at dons.net.au (Daniel O'Connor) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:37:55 +0930 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5A108323-5093-4521-A0E2-2F90EBF11D50@dons.net.au> On 27/07/2011, at 1:57, Jeffrey Watts wrote: > My larger complaint Zach is that it seems that you add me to EVERY social media service you sign up for. Please stop. If you are compelled to invite your entire Gmail contacts list to everything that you do then please remove my email address from your listing. Ditto.. > Thanks, > Jeffrey. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: > I did not add anyone's name. It said it would invite friends from my Gmail address book. It was clear it was only an invitation. If it did more than that then it lied to me and is breaking the law. Sorry you were subscribed but I had no idea it would do that. You can verify this by opening up a throwaway email account through Gmail, signing up and selecting invite friends option you will see it says it is only inviting them not adding them. Then it apparently proceeds to subscribe every address. So I really did not know this would happen. Sorry again. Seems this is bogus site but it sure seemed legit. > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: > > > Hi Netrek, > > Zachary Uram added your name to Academia.edu, the global directory of academics and graduate students. We checked your department directory, and it looks like you are an academic/graduate student. You are currently listed as an 'unknown' academic/graduate student: resolve your 'unknown' status by following one of the links below: > > > Yes, I am an academic/graduate student: > http://academia.edu/Yes-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--is-an-academic-or-graduate-student > > > No, I am not an academic/graduate student: > http://academia.edu/Remove-Netrek-Mailing--netrek-dev-at-us.netrek.org--from-the-directory-of-academics > > Stephen Hawking, Richard Dawkins, Paul Krugman, Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker have all confirmed their membership of their departments on Academia.edu. > > Thanks, > The Academia.edu Team > > Academia.edu's office is at: 251 Kearny St., Suite 520, San Francisco, CA, 94108. To opt out of receiving these kinds of emails from Academia.edu, go to: http://academia.edu/optout/ > > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev > > > > > -- > Zach > http://www.fidei.org > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C From netrek at gmail.com Wed Jul 27 07:00:26 2011 From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:00:26 -0400 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: <5A108323-5093-4521-A0E2-2F90EBF11D50@dons.net.au> References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <5A108323-5093-4521-A0E2-2F90EBF11D50@dons.net.au> Message-ID: Ok I will remove from Contacts. Sorry about that. -- Zach http://www.fidei.org From sven at sven.de Wed Jul 27 07:38:04 2011 From: sven at sven.de (Sven Neuhaus) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:38:04 +0200 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> Ditto! -- Von unterwegs Am 26.07.2011 um 18:27 schrieb Jeffrey Watts : > My larger complaint Zach is that it seems that you add me to EVERY social media service you sign up for. Please stop. If you are compelled to invite your entire Gmail contacts list to everything that you do then please remove my email address from your listing. > > Thanks, > Jeffrey. > From keyos at keyos.org Wed Jul 27 11:02:38 2011 From: keyos at keyos.org (Stas Pirogov) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:02:38 +0300 (IDT) Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> Message-ID: Indeed On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Sven Neuhaus wrote: > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:38:04 +0200 > From: Sven Neuhaus > Reply-To: Netrek Development Mailing List > To: Netrek Development Mailing List > Cc: Netrek Development Mailing List > Subject: Re: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu > directory of academics > > Ditto! > > -- > Von unterwegs > > Am 26.07.2011 um 18:27 schrieb Jeffrey Watts : > > > My larger complaint Zach is that it seems that you add me to EVERY social media service you sign up for. Please stop. If you are compelled to invite your entire Gmail contacts list to everything that you do then please remove my email address from your listing. > > > > Thanks, > > Jeffrey. > > > _______________________________________________ > netrek-dev mailing list > netrek-dev at us.netrek.org > http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev > From netrek at gmail.com Wed Jul 27 12:45:19 2011 From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:45:19 -0400 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> Message-ID: Peanut gallery speaks! At least there is actual discussion on this list. It has been dead for 6 months. Close it down if no one is working on netrek anymore. -- Zach http://www.fidei.org From jrd at gerdesas.com Wed Jul 27 13:05:20 2011 From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:05:20 -0500 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> Message-ID: <20110727180520.GJ30609@frodo.gerdesas.com> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 01:45:19PM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > Peanut gallery speaks! At least there is actual discussion on this > list. It has been dead for 6 months. Close it down if no one is > working on netrek anymore. Whether this list (only one of a number of lists affected by your actions) has recent traffic or not is not relevant here. Nor are who are responding relevant. Please stop becoming defensive and understand that your actions have real-life repercussions, Zach. People are concerned due to the fact that this is not the first time this has occurred. Also please understand that while I am not in any way threatening to do so the fact remains that in some jurisdictions you would be eligible for civil sanctions for actions like this. Just food for thought, perhaps, for you to be more careful in the future. John -- We only have bad solutions, worse solutions and worst solutions. -- Amos Gilad, a senior Israeli defense official, on policy toward Gaza, New York Times, 3 June 2010 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From netrek at gmail.com Wed Jul 27 13:11:08 2011 From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:11:08 -0400 Subject: [netrek-dev] Zachary Uram added your name to the Academia.edu directory of academics In-Reply-To: <20110727180520.GJ30609@frodo.gerdesas.com> References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> <20110727180520.GJ30609@frodo.gerdesas.com> Message-ID: Ok. -- Zach http://www.fidei.org From quozl at us.netrek.org Wed Jul 27 18:10:03 2011 From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:10:03 +1000 Subject: [netrek-dev] updates In-Reply-To: References: <4e2dab18.8a27e70a.2484.ffffefc0SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <0764BA9D-5B48-418F-A64E-0BC58C18A3A6@sven.de> Message-ID: <20110727231003.GA4633@us.netrek.org> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 01:45:19PM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > Peanut gallery speaks! At least there is actual discussion on this > list. It has been dead for 6 months. Close it down if no one is > working on netrek anymore. I've been working, just haven't been calling for debates and disagreements, nor making release announcements for Gytha. I did make a release announcement for the server http://mailman.us.netrek.org/pipermail/netrek-dev/2011-June/005740.html -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/