From iggyvolz at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 18:53:24 2015
From: iggyvolz at gmail.com (iggyvolz .)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:53:24 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] Mactrek problems
Message-ID: <CAD2kNXAx4UBoE8y9T5V1eQkMNd6-RYf=UWvBnhy85LS9s_WjLg@mail.gmail.com>

So here's the problem I've been talking about for a while, where upon death
the client will sometimes freeze.  Seems to happen more often when I have
my mouse down or I'm cloaked.  Looks like the game knows I died but
nobody's equipped to handle it:

2015-06-07 19:49:38.263 MacTrek[9462:1af07] ServerReader.handlePacket:
SP_MESSAGE GOD->ALL  iggyvolz (Fb) killed by Cassiopeia (O)   [planet] from
255 to 0 flags 105
2015-06-07 19:49:38.881 MacTrek[9462:507]
LLNotificationCenter.postNotificationName WARNING notification PL_I_DIED
has no observer
2015-06-07 19:49:40.331 MacTrek[9462:507]
LLNotificationCenter.postNotificationName WARNING notification
PL_PLAYER_EXPLODED has no observer

The center screen goes black but the minimap updates slowly.  I have to
command-Q to quit the client and restart.
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From jrd at gerdesas.com  Sun Jun  7 19:24:10 2015
From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:24:10 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] Mactrek problems
In-Reply-To: <CAD2kNXAx4UBoE8y9T5V1eQkMNd6-RYf=UWvBnhy85LS9s_WjLg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD2kNXAx4UBoE8y9T5V1eQkMNd6-RYf=UWvBnhy85LS9s_WjLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150608002410.GS9708@frodo.gerdesas.com>

On Sun, Jun 07, 2015 at 07:53:24PM -0400, iggyvolz . wrote:
> So here's the problem I've been talking about for a while, where upon death
> the client will sometimes freeze.  Seems to happen more often when I have
> my mouse down or I'm cloaked.  Looks like the game knows I died but
> nobody's equipped to handle it:

I doubt that client is going to be updated any time soon.  BRMH should
still work on modern macos releases.  You may want to try that as a
client.

Please note: It's not as "modern" as your current client so you may not
be impressed with graphics and such.





							John
-- 
Instead of insight, maybe all a man gets is strength to wander for a while.
Maybe the only gift is a chance to inquire, to know nothing for certain.
An inheritance of wonder and nothing more.

-- William Least Heat-Moon (27 August 1939-), American travel writer
   and historian, Blue Highways, Part Six, Chapter 9 (1982)
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From iggyvolz at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 19:43:35 2015
From: iggyvolz at gmail.com (iggyvolz .)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:43:35 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAPu6UvApn8U7F3meattH4H2E4XAmLnKHJhvzspad_XBMfHJWOw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150601012614.GH4873@us.netrek.org>
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Message-ID: <CAD2kNXDXmejv=HgxYwrf9qzSxN1VdGe=hBYm80_aS5sevoP6iA@mail.gmail.com>

Possibly stupid question... how does one run a Mac universal binary?

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:26 PM, James Cameron <quozl at us.netrek.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Source code repository
>> https://launchpad.net/netrek-client-brmh
>>
>> Sources
>> http://www.netrek.org/files/archive/BRMH/src/
>>
>> Binaries
>> http://www.netrek.org/files/BRMH/
>>
>> Copied from
>> http://karthik.com/netrek/brmh/
>>
>> Release announcement
>> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/pipermail/netrek-dev/2009-July/005522.html
>>
>> --
>> James Cameron
>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>> _______________________________________________
>> netrek-dev mailing list
>> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
>> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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From quozl at us.netrek.org  Sun Jun  7 20:25:43 2015
From: quozl at us.netrek.org (James Cameron)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:25:43 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAD2kNXDXmejv=HgxYwrf9qzSxN1VdGe=hBYm80_aS5sevoP6iA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150601012614.GH4873@us.netrek.org>
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Message-ID: <20150608012543.GD29881@us.netrek.org>

No idea, never tried, let us know when you find out how.

-- 
James Cameron
http://quozl.linux.org.au/

From netrek at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 13:28:33 2015
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:28:33 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <20150608012543.GD29881@us.netrek.org>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150601012614.GH4873@us.netrek.org>
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Message-ID: <CAPu6UvA_mvK9g_H9zB6W_7O9pfnaLOMyFot5RdXitvgSgzzKhg@mail.gmail.com>

Try opening up a command prompt and be in the same directory as the binary
and run: ./binary

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM, James Cameron <quozl at us.netrek.org> wrote:

> No idea, never tried, let us know when you find out how.
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> _______________________________________________
> netrek-dev mailing list
> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>



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From iggyvolz at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 16:51:30 2015
From: iggyvolz at gmail.com (iggyvolz .)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:51:30 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAPu6UvA_mvK9g_H9zB6W_7O9pfnaLOMyFot5RdXitvgSgzzKhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150601012614.GH4873@us.netrek.org>
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 <CAD2kNXDXmejv=HgxYwrf9qzSxN1VdGe=hBYm80_aS5sevoP6iA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150608012543.GD29881@us.netrek.org>
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Message-ID: <CAD2kNXAe6-T-mgPhUmAGKkJYHTpt+bro_2i6ReZ3trSbDnxDwA@mail.gmail.com>

@Zachary Uram: I tried that with BRMH-2.4.0-MacOSX-Universal.gz before and
it failed, but I just tried on the brmh-2.6.0-pre20090729-macosx.gz file
and it worked like a charm (after I chmod +x'd it).

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Try opening up a command prompt and be in the same directory as the binary
> and run: ./binary
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM, James Cameron <quozl at us.netrek.org> wrote:
>
>> No idea, never tried, let us know when you find out how.
>>
>> --
>> James Cameron
>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>> _______________________________________________
>> netrek-dev mailing list
>> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
>> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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From jrd at gerdesas.com  Tue Jun  9 17:05:24 2015
From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:05:24 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAD2kNXAe6-T-mgPhUmAGKkJYHTpt+bro_2i6ReZ3trSbDnxDwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150609220524.GC9708@frodo.gerdesas.com>

On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 05:51:30PM -0400, iggyvolz . wrote:
> @Zachary Uram: I tried that with BRMH-2.4.0-MacOSX-Universal.gz before and
> it failed, but I just tried on the brmh-2.6.0-pre20090729-macosx.gz file
> and it worked like a charm (after I chmod +x'd it).

Good deal.  Hope to see you for the next game in a more stable ship :)




							John
-- 
Worrying works.  About 90% of the things I worry about never happen.

-- Woody Paige (1946-), sports columnist, on ESPN's "Around the Horn"
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From netrek at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 17:11:10 2015
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:11:10 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <20150609220524.GC9708@frodo.gerdesas.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPu6UvAYHzJooe-wYBQ_ZT5ddyf5h+1S13p+FXTqHPc+JOGzeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Normally one would gunzip a .gz file before running the binary. Do Mac
systems handle the gunzipping automatically?

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John R. Dennison <jrd at gerdesas.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 05:51:30PM -0400, iggyvolz . wrote:
> > @Zachary Uram: I tried that with BRMH-2.4.0-MacOSX-Universal.gz before
> and
> > it failed, but I just tried on the brmh-2.6.0-pre20090729-macosx.gz file
> > and it worked like a charm (after I chmod +x'd it).
>
> Good deal.  Hope to see you for the next game in a more stable ship :)
>
>
>
>
>                                                         John
> --
> Worrying works.  About 90% of the things I worry about never happen.
>
> -- Woody Paige (1946-), sports columnist, on ESPN's "Around the Horn"
>
> _______________________________________________
> netrek-dev mailing list
> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>
>


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From iggyvolz at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 17:35:24 2015
From: iggyvolz at gmail.com (iggyvolz .)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:35:24 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAPu6UvAYHzJooe-wYBQ_ZT5ddyf5h+1S13p+FXTqHPc+JOGzeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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No they don't, I just ran gunzip before I ran it.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Normally one would gunzip a .gz file before running the binary. Do Mac
> systems handle the gunzipping automatically?
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John R. Dennison <jrd at gerdesas.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 05:51:30PM -0400, iggyvolz . wrote:
>> > @Zachary Uram: I tried that with BRMH-2.4.0-MacOSX-Universal.gz before
>> and
>> > it failed, but I just tried on the brmh-2.6.0-pre20090729-macosx.gz file
>> > and it worked like a charm (after I chmod +x'd it).
>>
>> Good deal.  Hope to see you for the next game in a more stable ship :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                                         John
>> --
>> Worrying works.  About 90% of the things I worry about never happen.
>>
>> -- Woody Paige (1946-), sports columnist, on ESPN's "Around the Horn"
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> netrek-dev mailing list
>> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
>> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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>
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From netrek at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 17:51:10 2015
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:51:10 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAD2kNXDc2M-pKssX0md9EnStxOx969ftQGdbu=TtR8OmCZ1C0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvBc11htS=RG6SQiH15WvZ5c+oF-m2EZrV1n8+Q7A7KCkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPu6UvDUz+3YPRU-9j42m-yVOSYRE68GZcaH5zjs9cgrnqQDjg@mail.gmail.com>

Ah ok good :) The BRMH client is a really nice one. I use that when I play
from Linux, in Windows I use the XP Mod client.


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, iggyvolz . <iggyvolz at gmail.com> wrote:

> No they don't, I just ran gunzip before I ran it.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Normally one would gunzip a .gz file before running the binary. Do Mac
>> systems handle the gunzipping automatically?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John R. Dennison <jrd at gerdesas.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 05:51:30PM -0400, iggyvolz . wrote:
>>> > @Zachary Uram: I tried that with BRMH-2.4.0-MacOSX-Universal.gz before
>>> and
>>> > it failed, but I just tried on the brmh-2.6.0-pre20090729-macosx.gz
>>> file
>>> > and it worked like a charm (after I chmod +x'd it).
>>>
>>> Good deal.  Hope to see you for the next game in a more stable ship :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                         John
>>> --
>>> Worrying works.  About 90% of the things I worry about never happen.
>>>
>>> -- Woody Paige (1946-), sports columnist, on ESPN's "Around the Horn"
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> netrek-dev mailing list
>>> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
>>> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.fidei.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> netrek-dev mailing list
>> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
>> http://mailman.us.netrek.org/mailman/listinfo/netrek-dev
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


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From jrd at gerdesas.com  Tue Jun  9 17:54:37 2015
From: jrd at gerdesas.com (John R. Dennison)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:54:37 -0500
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
In-Reply-To: <CAPu6UvDUz+3YPRU-9j42m-yVOSYRE68GZcaH5zjs9cgrnqQDjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150601012614.GH4873@us.netrek.org>
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Message-ID: <20150609225437.GD9708@frodo.gerdesas.com>

On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:51:10PM -0400, Zachary Uram wrote:
> Ah ok good :) The BRMH client is a really nice one. I use that when I play
> from Linux, in Windows I use the XP Mod client.

Nice is subjective.  The key point here is that BRMH works while the
MacTrek client apparently has issues on newer MacOS releases.  Can
someone, perhaps, reach out to its developer and see if a new release
can be made for newer OS releases?





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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:02:54 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] BRMH sources?
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Am 09.06.15 um 23:51 schrieb iggyvolz .:
> but I just tried on the brmh-2.6.0-pre20090729-macosx.gz
> file and it worked like a charm (after I chmod +x'd it).

Works for me as well. Had to install XQuartz first but it told me that.

-Sven