From netrek at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 14:02:04 2020
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:02:04 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] Adding new Mac client?
Message-ID: <CAPu6UvDw9hM=diAUcWGAhCcV3egDGHOPpmg5Jed31HxONKCC_w@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone going to mention the new Mac client written in Swift by Darrell
Root on www.netrek.org?
He posted about it on netrek-forever.

Zach

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From netrek at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 14:02:54 2020
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:02:54 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] www.netrek.org and HTTPS
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Any plans to setup HTTPS on www.netrek.org?

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From darrellroot at mac.com  Sun Apr 26 15:18:52 2020
From: darrellroot at mac.com (Darrell Root)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:18:52 -0700
Subject: [netrek-dev] Netrek last day of the month 6PM Pacific,
 9PM Eastern? (This Thursday evening!)
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Thanks for the mention Zach.

How about we try to get a game together on the last day of each month at 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern on continuum.us.netrek.org <http://continuum.us.netrek.org/>?

That makes the next game this Thursday 4/30 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern.  Spread the word!

For those of you running recent Macs, my Swift “Netrek” client is free in the MacOS App Store.  Just search on “Netrek”.  The old MacOS Objective-C client is 32-bit and does not run on the latest MacOS :-(

My apologies in advance for the “team selection / launch ship” issue in my client:

1) Select server
2) Select Preferred team
3) Launch ship -> Cruiser

(if that is rejected, pick different teams and retry launch -> cruiser).  I was never able to figure out how to get my client to pick a team automatically that worked.  Open source code is at https://github.com/darrellroot/SwiftNetrek <https://github.com/darrellroot/SwiftNetrek>

Darrell




> On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone going to mention the new Mac client written in Swift by Darrell Root on www.netrek.org <http://www.netrek.org/>?
> He posted about it on netrek-forever.
> 
> Zach 
> 
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From netrek at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 19:52:48 2020
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:52:48 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] DNS
Message-ID: <CAPu6UvAX6RA+Jy_AnBzU+y_wyR7y_uf5=0YE-O5oauhcYk9__g@mail.gmail.com>

My DNS has been flaky with Verizon's nameservers. Has anyone had any
experience with Google's?  https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/



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From sdrac8 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 09:02:35 2020
From: sdrac8 at gmail.com (Samuel North)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:02:35 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] Netrek last day of the month 6PM Pacific,
 9PM Eastern? (This Thursday evening!)
In-Reply-To: <C89842CE-62EA-4BDC-9789-69E3499706A8@mac.com>
References: <CAPu6UvDw9hM=diAUcWGAhCcV3egDGHOPpmg5Jed31HxONKCC_w@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm always keen for a game. Fist squarely in my lunch break.

Sam N.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:26 AM Darrell Root <darrellroot at mac.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the mention Zach.
>
> How about we try to get a game together on the last day of each month at
> 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern on continuum.us.netrek.org?
>
> That makes the next game this Thursday 4/30 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern.
> Spread the word!
>
> For those of you running recent Macs, my Swift “Netrek” client is free in
> the MacOS App Store.  Just search on “Netrek”.  The old MacOS Objective-C
> client is 32-bit and does not run on the latest MacOS :-(
>
> My apologies in advance for the “team selection / launch ship” issue in my
> client:
>
> 1) Select server
> 2) Select Preferred team
> 3) Launch ship -> Cruiser
>
> (if that is rejected, pick different teams and retry launch -> cruiser).
> I was never able to figure out how to get my client to pick a team
> automatically that worked.  Open source code is at
> https://github.com/darrellroot/SwiftNetrek
>
> Darrell
>
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is anyone going to mention the new Mac client written in Swift by Darrell
> Root on www.netrek.org?
> He posted about it on netrek-forever.
>
> Zach
>
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From johnny at solbu.net  Tue Apr 28 09:23:16 2020
From: johnny at solbu.net (Johnny A. Solbu)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:23:16 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] DNS
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Message-ID: <202004281623.20079.johnny@solbu.net>

On Tuesday 28 April 2020 02:52, Zachary Uram wrote:
> My DNS has been flaky with Verizon's nameservers. Has anyone had any
> experience with Google's?

I run my own dns server in Linux at home.
The benefits is that I controll it, not the ISP, which also means that any dns based ISP filtering won't work � govenment mandated or otherwize,
and response time is best.

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From netrek at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 15:23:44 2020
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:23:44 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] DNS
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Neat!

Zach

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:28 AM Johnny A. Solbu <johnny at solbu.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 April 2020 02:52, Zachary Uram wrote:
> > My DNS has been flaky with Verizon's nameservers. Has anyone had any
> > experience with Google's?
>
> I run my own dns server in Linux at home.
> The benefits is that I controll it, not the ISP, which also means that any
> dns based ISP filtering won't work – govenment mandated or otherwize,
> and response time is best.
>
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From sven-netrek-dev at sven.de  Thu Apr 30 09:48:19 2020
From: sven-netrek-dev at sven.de (Sven Neuhaus)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:48:19 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] Netrek last day of the month 6PM Pacific,
 9PM Eastern? (This Thursday evening!)
In-Reply-To: <C89842CE-62EA-4BDC-9789-69E3499706A8@mac.com>
References: <CAPu6UvDw9hM=diAUcWGAhCcV3egDGHOPpmg5Jed31HxONKCC_w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0890f612-d8e4-4d2a-138e-fe223eee5849@sven.de>

Hi,

I'd be interested - but only if you can find a time that is compatible 
with Europe.
9pm eastern is 3am CEST. How about doing it at 4pm Eastern?

Best,
-Sven

Am 26.04.20 um 22:18 schrieb Darrell Root:
> Thanks for the mention Zach.
> 
> How about we try to get a game together on the last day of each month at 
> 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern on continuum.us.netrek.org 
> <http://continuum.us.netrek.org>?
> 
> That makes the next game this Thursday 4/30 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern. 
>   Spread the word!
> 
> For those of you running recent Macs, my Swift “Netrek” client is free 
> in the MacOS App Store.  Just search on “Netrek”.  The old MacOS 
> Objective-C client is 32-bit and does not run on the latest MacOS :-(
> 
> My apologies in advance for the “team selection / launch ship” issue in 
> my client:
> 
> 1) Select server
> 2) Select Preferred team
> 3) Launch ship -> Cruiser
> 
> (if that is rejected, pick different teams and retry launch -> cruiser). 
>   I was never able to figure out how to get my client to pick a team 
> automatically that worked.  Open source code is at 
> https://github.com/darrellroot/SwiftNetrek
> 
> Darrell
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:netrek at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone going to mention the new Mac client written in Swift by 
>> Darrell Root on www.netrek.org <http://www.netrek.org/>?
>> He posted about it on netrek-forever.
>>
>> Zach
>>
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From netrek at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 13:11:29 2020
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:11:29 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] Netrek last day of the month 6PM Pacific,
 9PM Eastern? (This Thursday evening!)
In-Reply-To: <0890f612-d8e4-4d2a-138e-fe223eee5849@sven.de>
References: <CAPu6UvDw9hM=diAUcWGAhCcV3egDGHOPpmg5Jed31HxONKCC_w@mail.gmail.com>
 <C89842CE-62EA-4BDC-9789-69E3499706A8@mac.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPu6UvBaaJPSriTmb9QZyPkJ-VY2qG+XjosjTPfY662Q9auTQg@mail.gmail.com>

We could have a game Sunday at 4pm EST.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Sven Neuhaus <sven-netrek-dev at sven.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd be interested - but only if you can find a time that is compatible
> with Europe.
> 9pm eastern is 3am CEST. How about doing it at 4pm Eastern?
>
> Best,
> -Sven
>
> Am 26.04.20 um 22:18 schrieb Darrell Root:
> > Thanks for the mention Zach.
> >
> > How about we try to get a game together on the last day of each month at
> > 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern on continuum.us.netrek.org
> > <http://continuum.us.netrek.org>?
> >
> > That makes the next game this Thursday 4/30 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern.
> >   Spread the word!
> >
> > For those of you running recent Macs, my Swift “Netrek” client is free
> > in the MacOS App Store.  Just search on “Netrek”.  The old MacOS
> > Objective-C client is 32-bit and does not run on the latest MacOS :-(
> >
> > My apologies in advance for the “team selection / launch ship” issue in
> > my client:
> >
> > 1) Select server
> > 2) Select Preferred team
> > 3) Launch ship -> Cruiser
> >
> > (if that is rejected, pick different teams and retry launch -> cruiser).
> >   I was never able to figure out how to get my client to pick a team
> > automatically that worked.  Open source code is at
> > https://github.com/darrellroot/SwiftNetrek
> >
> > Darrell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:netrek at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is anyone going to mention the new Mac client written in Swift by
> >> Darrell Root on www.netrek.org <http://www.netrek.org/>?
> >> He posted about it on netrek-forever.
> >>
> >> Zach
> >>
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From zmc at lurian.net  Thu Apr 30 14:38:36 2020
From: zmc at lurian.net (Lurian)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:38:36 -0700
Subject: [netrek-dev] Netrek last day of the month 6PM Pacific,
 9PM Eastern? (This Thursday evening!)
In-Reply-To: <CAPu6UvBaaJPSriTmb9QZyPkJ-VY2qG+XjosjTPfY662Q9auTQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPu6UvDw9hM=diAUcWGAhCcV3egDGHOPpmg5Jed31HxONKCC_w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20200430123836.a809e5dd364ac906ca413f73@lurian.net>

It's been years since I played, sounds like great fun!

What would be the best client to use?  I have to compile from source on arm-linux-unknown. :D

zmc


On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:11:29 -0400
Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com> wrote:

> We could have a game Sunday at 4pm EST.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:54 AM Sven Neuhaus <sven-netrek-dev at sven.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd be interested - but only if you can find a time that is compatible
> > with Europe.
> > 9pm eastern is 3am CEST. How about doing it at 4pm Eastern?
> >
> > Best,
> > -Sven
> >
> > Am 26.04.20 um 22:18 schrieb Darrell Root:
> > > Thanks for the mention Zach.
> > >
> > > How about we try to get a game together on the last day of each month at
> > > 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern on continuum.us.netrek.org
> > > <http://continuum.us.netrek.org>?
> > >
> > > That makes the next game this Thursday 4/30 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern.
> > >   Spread the word!
> > >
> > > For those of you running recent Macs, my Swift “Netrek” client is free
> > > in the MacOS App Store.  Just search on “Netrek”.  The old MacOS
> > > Objective-C client is 32-bit and does not run on the latest MacOS :-(
> > >
> > > My apologies in advance for the “team selection / launch ship” issue in
> > > my client:
> > >
> > > 1) Select server
> > > 2) Select Preferred team
> > > 3) Launch ship -> Cruiser
> > >
> > > (if that is rejected, pick different teams and retry launch -> cruiser).
> > >   I was never able to figure out how to get my client to pick a team
> > > automatically that worked.  Open source code is at
> > > https://github.com/darrellroot/SwiftNetrek
> > >
> > > Darrell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com
> > >> <mailto:netrek at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Is anyone going to mention the new Mac client written in Swift by
> > >> Darrell Root on www.netrek.org <http://www.netrek.org/>?
> > >> He posted about it on netrek-forever.
> > >>
> > >> Zach
> > >>
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From johnny at solbu.net  Thu Apr 30 14:55:10 2020
From: johnny at solbu.net (Johnny A. Solbu)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 21:55:10 +0200
Subject: [netrek-dev] Netrek last day of the month 6PM Pacific,
 9PM Eastern? (This Thursday evening!)
In-Reply-To: <20200430123836.a809e5dd364ac906ca413f73@lurian.net>
References: <CAPu6UvDw9hM=diAUcWGAhCcV3egDGHOPpmg5Jed31HxONKCC_w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPu6UvBaaJPSriTmb9QZyPkJ-VY2qG+XjosjTPfY662Q9auTQg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20200430123836.a809e5dd364ac906ca413f73@lurian.net>
Message-ID: <202004302155.17527.johnny@solbu.net>

On Thursday 30 April 2020 21:38, Lurian wrote:
> What would be the best client to use?  I have to compile from source on arm-linux-unknown. :D

In Mageia we have the cow client «netrek-client-cow» version 3.3.1 packaged for armv7hl and aarch64.
As far as i can see, arm packages are available in Debian, FreeBSD, Mageia, and Ubuntu.

So you might get away with installing «netrek-client-cow» from your package repo.

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From kevinz5000 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 14:51:07 2020
From: kevinz5000 at gmail.com (Kevin Zheng)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:51:07 -0700
Subject: [netrek-dev] netrek-client-cow: [PATCH] Add volume control
Message-ID: <3e1170ed-6cdd-576f-a0c1-6a894270e163@gmail.com>

Hi there,

Attached is a patch that gives netrek-client-cow an xtrekrc option to
lower its sound volume, when playing sounds using SDL_mixer.

I would like for it to be considered for the official client -- any
feedback?

Regards,
Kevin

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From netrek at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 15:07:58 2020
From: netrek at gmail.com (Zachary Uram)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:07:58 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] netrek-client-cow: [PATCH] Add volume control
In-Reply-To: <3e1170ed-6cdd-576f-a0c1-6a894270e163@gmail.com>
References: <3e1170ed-6cdd-576f-a0c1-6a894270e163@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPu6UvDUc=axizCcMdMx_YtLsA2bQPuc_VV2myPd+BSG6e4WWg@mail.gmail.com>

Good work!

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:59 PM Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Attached is a patch that gives netrek-client-cow an xtrekrc option to
> lower its sound volume, when playing sounds using SDL_mixer.
>
> I would like for it to be considered for the official client -- any
> feedback?
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Zheng
> kevinz5000 at gmail.com | kevinz at berkeley.edu
> XMPP: kevinz at eecs.berkeley.edu
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From kevinz5000 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 15:16:34 2020
From: kevinz5000 at gmail.com (Kevin Zheng)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:16:34 -0700
Subject: [netrek-dev] netrek-client-cow: [PATCH] Emit '?' if ftoa() is given
 a negative fval
Message-ID: <56f59e69-1cb2-abf4-4e37-b935dae8a1c2@gmail.com>

Hi there,

netrek.beeseenterprises.com is a Sturgeon public server. Some of the
bots have amassed very large "Offense" and "Defense" ratings, so much so
that the player list in netrek-client-cow shows them as garbled characters.

Further investigation reveals that ftoa() is not designed to emit
negative numbers properly, and that for some reason, the client tries to
call ftoa() on a negative number when displaying these bots' ratings.

The attached patch replaces the garbled characters with '??????'.
Further investigation is needed to root cause the problem. It's unclear
whether or not this is a problem with the server.

Regards,
Kevin

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From billbalcerski at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 16:03:58 2020
From: billbalcerski at gmail.com (Bill Balcerski)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:03:58 -0400
Subject: [netrek-dev] netrek-client-cow: [PATCH] Emit '?' if ftoa() is
 given a negative fval
In-Reply-To: <56f59e69-1cb2-abf4-4e37-b935dae8a1c2@gmail.com>
References: <56f59e69-1cb2-abf4-4e37-b935dae8a1c2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACx6dna5nCvs_-6rsCPXsrohEXrECb6=P-CccgkHjkWSpC2b6g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kevin,
My guess is some of the bots have so many hours or "ticks" played that they
are causing some calculation in ltd stats to create a negative number for
hours. So the ratings are appearing as negative.  Any suggestion how to fix
welcome. The scores A tool does not work for ltd stats so not sure how to
modify the player database.
Thanks,
Bill

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:16 PM Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> netrek.beeseenterprises.com is a Sturgeon public server. Some of the
> bots have amassed very large "Offense" and "Defense" ratings, so much so
> that the player list in netrek-client-cow shows them as garbled characters.
>
> Further investigation reveals that ftoa() is not designed to emit
> negative numbers properly, and that for some reason, the client tries to
> call ftoa() on a negative number when displaying these bots' ratings.
>
> The attached patch replaces the garbled characters with '??????'.
> Further investigation is needed to root cause the problem. It's unclear
> whether or not this is a problem with the server.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Zheng
> kevinz5000 at gmail.com | kevinz at berkeley.edu
> XMPP: kevinz at eecs.berkeley.edu
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> netrek-dev at us.netrek.org
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From darrellroot at mac.com  Thu Apr 30 19:40:01 2020
From: darrellroot at mac.com (Darrell Root)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:40:01 -0700
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacOS Swift Netrek Client version 1.2 released,
 question about bots, IPv6?
Message-ID: <408D09B4-822F-43FC-A8CB-9F61AEB003BB@mac.com>

Netrek-dev:

1) My Swift/MacOS Netrek Client version 1.2 was just approved by Apple AppReview, and is now available as an update in the MacOS App Store.
The only change is that it fixes the “choose team” bug.  While MacOS users will automatically within in a few days, I highly recommend manually updating in the MacOS AppStore if you are playing in tonight’s 6PM game on continuum.

2) Netrek-dev server bot question:  When running a netrek server with bots, are the bots built in to the server?  Or are the bots separate processes running on the server and talking to the server over the localhost network?

3) IPv6: I’m under the impression that nobody has ever played Netrek over IPv6 because none of the netrek server codebases support IPv6.  Is that correct?  Asking for a friend…

Thanks!

Darrell


From quozl at laptop.org  Thu Apr 30 22:07:02 2020
From: quozl at laptop.org (James Cameron)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 13:07:02 +1000
Subject: [netrek-dev] MacOS Swift Netrek Client version 1.2 released,
 question about bots, IPv6?
In-Reply-To: <408D09B4-822F-43FC-A8CB-9F61AEB003BB@mac.com>
References: <408D09B4-822F-43FC-A8CB-9F61AEB003BB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20200501030702.GB6743@laptop.org>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:40:01PM -0700, Darrell Root wrote:
> Netrek-dev:
> 
> 1) My Swift/MacOS Netrek Client version 1.2 was just approved by Apple AppReview, and is now available as an update in the MacOS App Store.
> The only change is that it fixes the “choose team” bug.  While MacOS users will automatically within in a few days, I highly recommend manually updating in the MacOS AppStore if you are playing in tonight’s 6PM game on continuum.
> 
> 2) Netrek-dev server bot question:  When running a netrek server
> with bots, are the bots built in to the server?  Or are the bots
> separate processes running on the server and talking to the server
> over the localhost network?

Some robots use shared memory to interact with the server.

Some robots use the network connection, which can be localhost or from
another host, depending on the configuration.

> 3) IPv6: I’m under the impression that nobody has ever played Netrek over IPv6 because none of the netrek server codebases support IPv6.  Is that correct?  Asking for a friend…

Yes, the code supports IPv4.  As far as I can see there's no need to
support IPv6, but if you know of enough service providers blocking
IPv4, let me know.

> Thanks!
> 
> Darrell
> 
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