Hi, On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bob Tanner wrote: > What I don't get is why everyone is so ticked off. I have to agree. It's starting to annoy me that everyone's picking the hell out of RedHat. To the point of gloating. So Red Hat's update agent might hang or crash your box. You can TURN IT OFF, and, if you're one of the very, very few who actually USE the auto update feature, rerun it when the fix comes out. Red Hat is, indeed, the Microsoft of the Linux world - because it is getting ripped to shreads for anything they do. I wish people would give them a rest. This is NOT Microsoft - you don't HAVE to use Red Hat. I have got to say this, though. UNIX, I don't care which UNIX, be it SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, minix, Ultrix, and, yes, Linux of ANY distribution. They have, and always will, have buggy releases. Errors. Crashes. Hangs. Even if they do years of bug testing. it will still happen. That's what patches are for, and that's what SysAdmins have to know how to WORK AROUND. I'm sorry, I hate to lash out this way, but if having one bad daemon on a distribution makes it unusable for you, maybe you shouldn't be using UNIX. Or a computer. Maybe try a typewriter. -Yaron -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org