My girlfriend has the select DSL and it sucks bigtime. You get disconnected if too many people get on, and I'm not sure if you can use a cisco 675 with it. She has the crappy intel 2100 internal atm card which only works with windows, don't get the internal card. I'm with goldengate.net right now, they have excellent pricing, and for an extra $15 a month you get a block of 8 ip's, 5 usable. However, if you plan on saturating it 24/7, go with Qwest for an ISP. They're so large they won't even notice, and Qwest's residential DSL is sustained, not burstable like most others. Although, goldengate has not turned on the burstable features yet, and hopefully they'll keep it that way. I'll switch back to Qwest if they ever do turn it on. When I had Qwest before, I had my line completely saturated for about 5 days straight, and they didn't even notice (or care). That was a 768k line too. If you plan on running any type of servers, get DSL. A friend of mine has a cable modem through Media One, he started a webserver on port 7000 and they found it and shut him off. He got it turned back on with the promise that he wouldn't ever run another server. Read the user agreement on the cable providers site, Media one says you cannot send jokes and forwards in your email, chat with more than 3 people simultaneously, and do a whole bunch of other things that normal people do. I heard they were also going to ban VPN's unless you pay for the business service which is over $100 a month. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Ben Kochie [mailto:ben at nerp.net] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 3:31 PM To: Tclug-List Subject: Re: [TCLUG:23020] Cable or DSL oh.. i didn't even realize that.. the DSL select is like a dialup? how lame... Thank You, Ben Kochie (ben at nerp.net) *-----------------------* [ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - ] | Unix/Linux Consulting | [ Haiku Error Message: ] | PC/Mac Repair | [ Chaos reigns within. ] | Networking | [ Reflect, repent, and reboot. ] | http://nerp.net | [ Order shall return. ] *-----------------------* [ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - ] "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Adam Maloney wrote: > Don't get DSL select...the extra $10 / month is well worth not being > pooled at the DSLAM. The select destroys most of what makes DSL such a > great option - no busies, no waiting to get online. > > Adam Maloney > Systems Administrator > Sihope Communications > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Matthew LaBerge wrote: > > > I've had 2 offers for high speed internet services thrown my way but cant > > decide which to get so I thought I'd ask the list. > > 1 AT&T Roadrunner $40 a month (1200k in 300k out) > > 2 Quest DSL Select $20 (640k) > > both have free installation > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org