I believe it was gofast.net that blew the whistle about their anti-trust ISDN practices (and only installing in upper-class areas). I also believe it was another local ISP named Sihope that filed the affidavit with the state about their DSL roll-out before the tarrif was approved. They were offering DSL before any ISP's could offer it - basically USWest.net got to jump the gun because of their relationship with the ILEC. The same day the story ran in the paper a bunch of our lines were disconnected for a few hours, no explanation from Interprise ("we don't know what happened, they just started working again!"). Driving fear into the hearts of US-West employees... Adam Maloney Systems Administrator Sihope Communications On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Nate Sanders wrote: > I fixed my problem very easily. I called KMSP. > > CONSUMER ACTION RESPONSE TEAM. > > Let's just say, USWorst was very quick to help me after that :-] > Get the media to threaten to run a story about them, and USWorst will > bend over backwards for you. > > > "Austad, Jay" wrote: > > > > http://www.uswestsucks.net has a message board where people post their > > stories. > > > > Apparently, if you complain to the PUC about them, they get an automatic > > $500 fine, regardless of whether or not your complaint is valid or not. > > Whenever they give me trouble, I threaten the PUC and they usually give me a > > $50 credit on my bill or something else that seems like something they would > > never do. > > > > Jay > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Maloney [mailto:adamm at sihope.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:45 AM > > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org' > > Subject: RE: [TCLUG:23020] Cable or DSL > > > > I ordered a 3rd line at my folks' house a few years ago. The order was > > placed in June. The due-date kept getting pushed until January. Then the > > installer came out and told me they couldn't install because the ground > > was frozen (and they couldn't dig). Finally in April they were able to > > install. 10 months, life really must be better here. > > > > Qwest the long distance company is on the top of the list for "slamming" - > > that is, changing LD service w/o customers consent (and falsifying the > > "Yes I agree" recordings). They've been targetting asian and latino > > americans. > > > > Qwest the ISP is spam-friendly, abuse at qwest.net > /dev/null. They don't > > nuke spammer accounts or their websites. There's talk on NANAE about an > > RBL nomination (UU.net too) and there's talk on NANAU about a UDP. > > > > Qwest the local telco, well, they'll surely live up to my expectations and > > continue US-West's legacy of the qworst customer service of the > > incumbents. > > > > Don't even get me started on billing. I have to initial every telco bill > > that comes in here before we pay (apparently we recovered $1000's in > > mischarges from a certain telephone company going unchecked...). I have > > to wade through their ridiculous billing statements and make sure things > > add up. > > > > Qwest bad, Deregulation GOOD! > > Qwest bad, CLECs GOOD! > > > > Adam Maloney > > Systems Administrator > > Sihope Communications > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Austad, Jay wrote: > > > > > I just got a new line at my new place, and they didn't even come out this > > > time. They just sent me a packet of crap in the mail and told me I could > > > plug in my equipment anytime after a certain date. I went through hell > > the > > > last 2 times I ordered it, I was very surprised this time when I didn't > > have > > > any troubles. Of course, they screwed up my bill though like they have > > > every single month for the last 15 months. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Nate Sanders [mailto:mauvehead at nerp.net] > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:17 AM > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG:23020] Cable or DSL > > > > > > > > > I've delt with this all too much. I spent 3 months waiting for an ISDN > > > installation a few years ago. Many problems because of USWorst. Now more > > > recently, I spent 6 and a half months waiting for a DSL, which wasn't > > > even being done by QWorst, but because they resell their lines, I had to > > > deal with them any ways. And as usual they screwed me in the butt till > > > they were very satasfied. Apointments? I thought they just picked random > > > days to come to my house. It sure seemed like it to me. > > > > > > > > > Bob Brashear wrote: > > > > > > > > Of course, to get DSL, Qworst has to be able to string phone lines that > > > > don't route through texas or california to get from the CO in Richfield > > > > to the east Richfield area. They also have to get people that will show > > > > up for scheduled install appointments. Very bitter dealing with these > > > > twits. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bob Brashear voice: 612-374-4643 > > > > The One-Off CD Shop Minneapolis email: rjb at artimex.com > > > > > > > > "The meek SHALL inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the > > > > stars!" > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > -- > > > mauvehead at chef.nerp.net http://www.damnation.net > > > Infected Communications Admin: irc.infected.net > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > -- > mauvehead at chef.nerp.net http://www.damnation.net > Infected Communications Admin: irc.infected.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org