??? If this were the case, how would anyone block against some poorly setup machine in Brazil being used as a relay to flood them with spam? I think if people leave their relays open, they should be added to the RBL. Gabe On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:21:47AM -0500, Jason J wrote: > I host a domain off my DSL, including email. I do not think static IP's for DSL > customers should be RBL'd, just dynamic accounts. > > > Ben Kochie wrote: > > > yep.. i'd agree, Qwest and UUnet dialups, and cable modems should be RBL'd > > even RR should be RBL'd, there is no reason for cable, DSL, dialup users > > should need to connect to anyone, but their ISP's SMTP. > > I'll agree with adam.. CLEC's rock.. I have USLink (Qworst reseller) up in > > princeton, my rep is responsive, I can call him, wait 2 rings, and be > > either talking to him, or a customer service rep, that can handle just > > about all my problems, or can get me to someone who can.. the only problem > > they havn't been able to solve is the fact that if you call our main POTS > > line number from the 320 area code.. you get a fast busy.. what the heck > > is with that. (anyone in 320 want to give me a call to verify this?) > > > > Thank You, > > Ben Kochie (ben at nerp.net) > > > > *-----------------------* [ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - ] > > | Unix/Linux Consulting | [ Haiku Error Message: ] > > | PC/Mac Repair | [ Chaos reigns within. ] > > | Networking | [ Reflect, repent, and reboot. ] > > | http://nerp.net | [ Order shall return. ] > > *-----------------------* [ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - ] > > > > "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Adam Maloney wrote: > > > > > I ordered a 3rd line at my folks' house a few years ago. The order was > > > placed in June. The due-date kept getting pushed until January. Then the > > > installer came out and told me they couldn't install because the ground > > > was frozen (and they couldn't dig). Finally in April they were able to > > > install. 10 months, life really must be better here. > > > > > > Qwest the long distance company is on the top of the list for "slamming" - > > > that is, changing LD service w/o customers consent (and falsifying the > > > "Yes I agree" recordings). They've been targetting asian and latino > > > americans. > > > > > > Qwest the ISP is spam-friendly, abuse at qwest.net > /dev/null. They don't > > > nuke spammer accounts or their websites. There's talk on NANAE about an > > > RBL nomination (UU.net too) and there's talk on NANAU about a UDP. > > > > > > Qwest the local telco, well, they'll surely live up to my expectations and > > > continue US-West's legacy of the qworst customer service of the > > > incumbents. > > > > > > Don't even get me started on billing. I have to initial every telco bill > > > that comes in here before we pay (apparently we recovered $1000's in > > > mischarges from a certain telephone company going unchecked...). I have > > > to wade through their ridiculous billing statements and make sure things > > > add up. > > > > > > Qwest bad, Deregulation GOOD! > > > Qwest bad, CLECs GOOD! > > > > > > Adam Maloney > > > Systems Administrator > > > Sihope Communications > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Austad, Jay wrote: > > > > > > > I just got a new line at my new place, and they didn't even come out this > > > > time. They just sent me a packet of crap in the mail and told me I could > > > > plug in my equipment anytime after a certain date. I went through hell the > > > > last 2 times I ordered it, I was very surprised this time when I didn't have > > > > any troubles. Of course, they screwed up my bill though like they have > > > > every single month for the last 15 months. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Nate Sanders [mailto:mauvehead at nerp.net] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:17 AM > > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG:23020] Cable or DSL > > > > > > > > > > > > I've delt with this all too much. I spent 3 months waiting for an ISDN > > > > installation a few years ago. Many problems because of USWorst. Now more > > > > recently, I spent 6 and a half months waiting for a DSL, which wasn't > > > > even being done by QWorst, but because they resell their lines, I had to > > > > deal with them any ways. And as usual they screwed me in the butt till > > > > they were very satasfied. Apointments? I thought they just picked random > > > > days to come to my house. It sure seemed like it to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Brashear wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Of course, to get DSL, Qworst has to be able to string phone lines that > > > > > don't route through texas or california to get from the CO in Richfield > > > > > to the east Richfield area. They also have to get people that will show > > > > > up for scheduled install appointments. Very bitter dealing with these > > > > > twits. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Bob Brashear voice: 612-374-4643 > > > > > The One-Off CD Shop Minneapolis email: rjb at artimex.com > > > > > > > > > > "The meek SHALL inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the > > > > > stars!" > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > mauvehead at chef.nerp.net http://www.damnation.net > > > > Infected Communications Admin: irc.infected.net > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gabe Turner | X-President, UNIX Systems Administrator, | Assoc. for Computing Machinery U of M Supercomputing Institute for | Univerisity of Minnesota Digital Simulation and Advanced Computation | dopp at acm.cs.umn.edu "I'm gonna be a monkey. 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