My general plug, if you have a fast net connection, check out Debian's Network install. Debian's package managment and Redhat's package managment aren't much alike in reality. With Debain, you should be able to, in theory, install every package [except for those that conflict, exim and sendmail can't be installed at the same time for example] and everything you install will work, and will work to the extent the package maintainer has configured it to work out fo the box. Try that with Red Hat. =) Alien, well, it works. Alien can actually create rpm, debs, or tgz. By default on Debian, it creates debs. On RedHat, RPMs. See the docs. I would recomment agnist using it unless you're dealing with some biniary only redhat package. If there is no package but you can get the source, compile it. First check debian unstable, if there is a source package there, things are easy. apt-get source package (add source URIs for unstable to /etc/apt/sources.list, deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free, don't do just a strait deb http://whatever, or you will upgrade to unstable. If you really want to, that's an option as well.) Then cd to the directory you want to compile in, and type apt-get source packagename. apt will download the source code and extract it, and apply the patches to create a debian packages. cd to where it extracted it, make any changes or extra patches, then type debian/rules binary and it will build a debian biniary package. When it's finished, cd .., dpkg -i package-name*.deb. Slick. If there are no source packages, I recomend getting stow. (Search freshmeat for stow, stow is a potato and woody package.) Stow is really simple. Get a source archive, extract, and compile with prefix=/usr/local/stow/package-name-version. then do make and make install as normal. When it's done, cd to user local stow and type stow package-name-version. Stow will automatically create symlinks in /usr/local/. To remove the package, stow -D /usr/local/stow/package-name-version; rm -rf /usr/local/stow/package-name-version. The package is removed, and you still have a nice clean system. How great is that? I'm installing RedHat right now (just for kicks...hehe) under VMware. I'm actually rather impressed with the installer for 6.1. I do wish that their ftp install was a bit more obviously documented. (I admit that I haven't look very hard.) Anyone want to point me for the docs for RedHat 7 ftp install? =) -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX:132) LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (FAX) 763-428-9126 21801 Industrial Blvd | (PCS) 612-306-6055 Rogers, MN 55374 | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com -------------- next part -------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org