As a fairly new newbie, I currently don't have enough knowledge and, I admit I am lazy, and not enough will power to go out and learn how to install individual packages. I like to find a package and install it with no effort. With these automated packages, RPM will tell you if you need to install/upgrade dependent packages. When you uninstall the package, it will supposedly remove dependent packages that are no longer in use. With Debian, it will install dependant packages for you, if they are available. The down side to this automation is that you don't learn more about your system and how it works and I understand the concern about opening the system to security risk. I just had to add my two cents in. John D. Miller Dain Rauscher Application Programming Voice: (612) 547-7573 Email: jmiller2 at dainrauscher.com -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Houck [mailto:thouck at thouck.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:28 PM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [TCLUG:23152] Installing Red Hat Andy, I couldn't help but grimace at your post. No offense. With such a system, I can see a whole new crop of cracker attacks as a result of such ever-user-friendly, "plug-and-play"ish packages. IMHO, there is a point at which a system automates itself beyond a safe point -- trying to be more friendly to inexperienced (lazy? maybe) users. This is the whole reason we have ridiculous things like macro viruses. In contrast, I would encourage the download and compilation of the sources. Aside from what's in the compiler itself, this is total control. As slick as debs or rpms are, I can't help but feel as though they're sloppy and a "lazy" method for running (supposedly) trusted executables. Just my two cents... looking forward to a discussion. Timothy On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Andy Zbikowski wrote: > aren't much alike in reality. With Debain, you should be able to, in theory, > install every package [except for those that conflict, exim and sendmail > can't be installed at the same time for example] and everything you install > will work, and will work to the extent the package maintainer has configured > it to work out fo the box. Try that with Red Hat. =) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy Houck thouck at thouck.com www.thouck.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org