Heh, Ben... you picked my every word apart. I don't flame people... I try to make people understand the enevidable. I dont have a problem with you using Debian. And also, you need to understand my over all picture: A commercial company can do only so good, and Redhat is the best company I can think of to-date. You should be happy that the biggest distro (in the US) is Redhat and not some ass of a company like Microsoft. Ben Lutgens wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:10:49AM -0500, Nick B wrote: > >Ben, > > Irrationality isn't going to get the linux community anywhere. The only way > >Linux can succeed in the world and attempt to compete with Microsoft Windows on all > >scales (including gaming) is if a commercial company behind it. > > > > Um, I was having a perfectly calm discussion. So I think RedHat sucks. What do > you care? Thier distro sucks, and I think they suck as a company. Do I think > the community needs them? Sure. But they still stuck. > > > Redhat has put a lot of time into this distribution, > > Not nearly enough, thier package managment needs work. I'd like to know how > many people they have workign on ALL those packages. > > >and I know that for a fact. > >What I also know, is that Redhat cares a lot about the consumers. You may ask: "Well > >how does he know this?". Well I know a few people who work there and I'm in constant > >contact with them. > > How nice. > > >Sometimes this stuff happens. Don't blame it on the company for > >not caring... that is just being ignorant. > > Now this was total flame bait. You obviously have nothing better to do. > > >I downloaded Redhat 7.0 myself, burned > >it, and installed it without any glitches. Also... did you think that this person > >might have said: "Scan for bad blocks" when formatting his drive > > If they picked format at all the data is gone. Scanning for bad blocks isn't > going to affect anything. And I said in my email we don't exactly know what > happened. I also said that I was going to do a couple installs and post my > results. Maybe you should read a little more before you start to flame. And > for suture reference, should you feel like flaming me, don't. Cause you have > been added to the "once list" a handly little list I have of all the people I > choose not to read thier posts as they seem like flamewar to me. > > >and ended up > >loosing the space he thought he had free? I know on my laptop it told me I didn't > >have enough space free right away, so I fixed that and started the install :) > > > > Good for you. > > > Don't blame it on the company for being a huge commercial business. > > The bigger they are, the more they suck. It's inevitable. And if you think > otherwise, you are the "ignorant" person. Smaller companies are more personal, > efficient, and have more soul. (read: USWest) > > >The people I > >have contact with tell me that Redhat is NOT at all like Microsoft in any way. > > I never said they were. > > >The > >people there are nice, caring people who just want the best. Also, lets face > >it....Microsoft didn't get to where they are now because they had good OS's... its > >because they are a commercial company like Redhat that can consult for businesses > >and solve their problems with the OS's solutions. > > You think they did it through quality consulting? HAHAHA You are naive. > > >Just get use to Redhat, > Why? Are you saying we all have no alternative? I don't have to use any dist > if I don't want to, hell I can roll my own or use debian. We all know that > will remain free. > > >don't > >fight them, because then you are just helping Microsoft. > > Well thank you Eric S. Raymond. > > -- > Ben Lutgens Cell: 651.387.9065 Home: 651.703.9541 > > Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (T)hrowup > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org