Iis your card a AGP or PCI version ? Steve tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mailman just too slow (Thomas T. Veldhouse) > 2. Re: Mailman just too slow (Bob Tanner) > 3. video cards for Redhat 7.0 (Scott Dagastino) > 4. OT: VLAN and Token Ring? (Bob Tanner) > 5. Building RPMs passing things to make? (Bob Tanner) > 6. Re: Mailman just too slow (Ben Lutgens) > 7. Re: Mailman just too slow (Scott Dier) > 8. Re: Building RPMs passing things to make? (Troy Johnson) > 9. NIS (I R Baboon) > 10. Re: compatitble video cards for RedHat 7.0 (Andy Zbikowski) > 11. Re: NIS (I R Baboon) > 12. Re: [TCLUG-ANNOUNCE] Next Meeting: 4/7 High Availability Clustering (Tom Hudak) > 13. Power Converter (Perry Hoekstra) > 14. Problems compiling X: makedepend/Imakefile errors - HELP!? (Paul Wiechman) > 15. RE: Power Converter (Matthew M. LaBerge) > 16. Re: compatitble video cards for RedHat 7.0 (Doug Hanson) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy at veldy.net> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Mailman just too slow > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:51:50 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > What MTA? I understand performance sucks with Mailman/Sendmail. Try > Mailman/Postfix. It was developed under this combination. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy at veldy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Tanner" <tanner at real-time.com> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:19 PM > Subject: [TCLUG] Mailman just too slow > > > Mailman is just too slow. > > > > Majordomo is just to old. > > > > Ezmlm is just to hard to non-techincal people to understand. > > > > Any other choices out there? > > > > -- > > Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tclug-list mailing list > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:37:50 -0600 > From: Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Mailman just too slow > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Quoting I R Baboon (ben at nerp.net): > > if i remember right, sourceforge uses mailman, and they send a couple > > hundred thousand emails before lunchtime. I've never heard of mailman > > being "slow" > > If a subsriber's address does not have an MX record, the mailman hangs on trying > to deliver that mail message for hours. > > I have posted a bug to mailman on this. > > So, what options in sendmail can I use to help speed up delivery? > > If a host is down? > > If address does not have MX record? > > -- > Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:59:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Scott Dagastino <scottdagastino at yahoo.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] video cards for Redhat 7.0 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > I am running RedHat 7.0 and looking at getting a > different video card that is compatiable with RH7.0. > I'm looking for a 32mb video card that installation > and ease of installing with RH is very simple. Any > suggestions. > > Scott > --- "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com> wrote: > > Actually, once you get qmail installed, ezmlm is > > pretty easy. Qmail tends > > to be the annoying piece since you can't use ezmlm > > with anything else. > > > > Log in as the user "tclug", follow the generic > > ezmlm-make command in the > > ezmlm faq to make the list tclug-list, and load your > > addresses from mailman > > into it with something like "cat addresses.txt | > > xargs --max-args 20 > > ezmlm-sub ~/list" > > > > And it's ready to go. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bob Tanner [mailto:tanner at real-time.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:20 PM > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > Subject: [TCLUG] Mailman just too slow > > > > > > > > > Mailman is just too slow. > > > > > > Majordomo is just to old. > > > > > > Ezmlm is just to hard to non-techincal people to > > understand. > > > > > > Any other choices out there? > > > > > > -- > > > Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : > > (952)943-8700 > > > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : > > (952)943-8500 > > > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 > > 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > tclug-list mailing list > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tclug-list mailing list > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:38:35 -0600 > From: Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] OT: VLAN and Token Ring? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Can you do VLANs under Token Ring? > > -- > Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:49:20 -0600 > From: Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] Building RPMs passing things to make? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > I have looked, but cannot find a way to pass options to make when using rpm to > build a package. > > I want to pass make a "-j 2" so I can take advantage of my dual CPUs. > > Passing things to gcc is not a problem, CFLAGS, LDFLAGS, etc.. Is there an > equivalent for make? > > -- > Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:03:11 -0600 > From: Ben Lutgens <blutgens at sistina.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Mailman just too slow > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > --m51xatjYGsM+13rf > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 12:37:50PM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > >Quoting I R Baboon (ben at nerp.net): > >> if i remember right, sourceforge uses mailman, and they send a couple > >> hundred thousand emails before lunchtime. I've never heard of mailman > >> being "slow" > > > >If a subsriber's address does not have an MX record, the mailman hangs on = > trying > >to deliver that mail message for hours. > > > >I have posted a bug to mailman on this. > > > >So, what options in sendmail can I use to help speed up delivery? > > > >If a host is down? > > > >If address does not have MX record? > > > > I use qmail and don't have these problems. Just my .02 but qmail kicks ass. > --=20 > Ben Lutgens cell: 612.670.4789 > Sistina Software Inc. work: 612.379.3951 > Code Monkey Support (A.K.A. System Administrator) > > "I'm opening the "Paige" cache, anyone wanna cycle a few buffers?" > Mike Tilstra - Refering to a pop machine containing James Paige beer. > > --m51xatjYGsM+13rf > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE6xOZ/LxkxGgLdGQgRAjddAJ4vVfvm9bPq9S0P6r61U4mbuyNb8wCfStvY > o4qVaib0ZiPzpRqVcgBK+yg= > =R1ze > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --m51xatjYGsM+13rf-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:03:32 -0600 > From: Scott Dier <dieman+tclug at ringworld.org> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Mailman just too slow > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > --d01dLTUuW90fS44H > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > * Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> [010330 13:31]: > > Quoting I R Baboon (ben at nerp.net): > > > if i remember right, sourceforge uses mailman, and they send a couple > > > hundred thousand emails before lunchtime. I've never heard of mailman > > > being "slow" > >=20 > > If a subsriber's address does not have an MX record, the mailman hangs on= > trying > > to deliver that mail message for hours. > > Has anyone even looked at the code that it hangs on, this should be a > Simple Matter of Programming. > > mostly of the sort.. > > check something like 'host -t MX address.host.name' > > then, if that doesn't exist, try connecting directly to > address.host.name > > if you cant connect to address.host.name within 1min, stop and add one > to the bounce count for that user. > > otherwise, try the MX record, do the same. > > Does mailman not do that? I dont have the time atm to check the code, > and i hate python :) > > --=20 > Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> <sdier at debian.org> > http://www.ringworld.org/ #linuxos at efnet > > So little time, so little to do. -- Oscar Levant > > --d01dLTUuW90fS44H > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE6xOaUyXQl+65LXZIRAnmcAJ9aqJaK+Nxnkws8EJZkibNfqa190QCeISvB > 1TBlsCADRkLABDySPPX3+vg= > =b91O > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --d01dLTUuW90fS44H-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:04:08 -0600 > From: "Troy Johnson" <Troy.A.Johnson at state.mn.us> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Building RPMs passing things to make? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > I'm not an authority, but MAKEFLAGS might do it for GNU make. > > >>> tanner at real-time.com 03/30/01 01:49PM >>> > I have looked, but cannot find a way to pass options to make when using rpm to > build a package. > > I want to pass make a "-j 2" so I can take advantage of my dual CPUs. > > Passing things to gcc is not a problem, CFLAGS, LDFLAGS, etc.. Is there an > equivalent for make? > > -- > Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:14:09 -0600 (CST) > From: I R Baboon <ben at nerp.net> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: [TCLUG] NIS > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > ok.. I have a nice shiny new NIS server, debian potato, all setup, and > happy. (this is a major upgrade from the SunOS 4.1.4 box :) > everything transfered smothly, and the clients are allready switched over > to the new server, but the only problem i've found so far is yppasswd. > the server is running yppasswdd, and it's supposedly working, but none of > the clients seem to think so: > yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host > > that's no fun :( > > Thank You, > Ben Kochie (ben at nerp.net) > > "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:45:18 -0600 > From: Andy Zbikowski <administrator at ltiflex.com> > Organization: LTI Flexible Products > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] compatitble video cards for RedHat 7.0 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > I know there is a compatibility list at redhat.com, > > but does anyone have any recommendations for a 32mb > > ram video card that will work just fine with RH 7.0. > > I would be looking at ease of use being very/very/very > > easy. > > Just about any card is easy as long as you don't want 3D acceleration. There > is no easy way to get 3D acceleration working. You have to read the > documents and follow the instructions to get that. (And you thought it was > going to be hard!) Anyway, > > Anyway, Nvidia cards have seen the greatest steps forward and there still > isn't anything that competes with the GeForce2 cards. I'm perfectly happy > with my TNT2 however. G400 based cards are falling behind the curve 3D > acceleration wise, but they have a nice feature set that may appeal to you > if gaming is secondary. 2D on G200 and G400 cards is second to none. > > And between the g400 and the GeForce2 falls the Radeon. I haven't played > with one yet, but it does have DRI support, and 3D acceleration on earlier > ATI cards worked. The card has been out long enough that the drivers should > have caught up. > > I can't think of any current cards that won't get you up and running in > XFree86, but stay with the big 3 (Matrix, Nvidia, ATI). You might be able to > find a Vodoo3,4 or 5 for cheap, but alas, 3dfx is no more. > > -- > Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com > LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 > 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 > Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:49:11 -0600 (CST) > From: I R Baboon <ben at nerp.net> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] NIS > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > nevermind.. for some reason (my stupidity) the hostname was not right. > > Thank You, > Ben Kochie (ben at nerp.net) > > "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:13:44 -0600 > From: Tom Hudak <thudak at sistina.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [TCLUG-ANNOUNCE] Next Meeting: 4/7 High Availability Clustering > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:56:10PM -0600, Amy Tanner wrote: > >Date: Saturday, April 7 > >Time: noon-2pm > >Location:=20 > > Benchmark Computer Learning Center > > 4510 West 77th St > > Edina, MN > >Directions: > > http://www.benchmarklearning.com/Directions_to_Benchmark.asp > > > >Topic: High Availability Clustering for Linux > >Presenter: Greg Haney, SteelEye > Do you need a projector for this one? > Thanks, > --=20 > Thomas J. Hudak > Systems Administrator > Sistina Software Inc. - www.sistina.com > Phone: 612.379.3951 Page: 612.318.1967 > Fax: 612.379.3952 > > --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE6xLC3Nsw/4hUS2O0RAjrcAKCNL8y6+nZkdZcu9OGiI1120B+K2QCfeXbL > xfAcq592NMv8MoIKc5fLZ9k= > =3C7S > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:04:43 -0600 > From: "Perry Hoekstra" <dutchman at uswest.net> > To: "tclug-list at mn-linux.org" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: [TCLUG] Power Converter > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Greet the sun all: > > Does anyone know where I can purchase some three to four pin > converters? I am putting in some extra fans in my box an I am looking > some converters to plug into my ATX power supply. I have tried both > Tran Micro and my local Radio Shack with no joy. > > Thank you, > > -- > Perry Hoekstra > E-Commerce Architect > Talent Software Services > perry.hoekstra at talentemail.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:32:27 -0600 > From: Paul Wiechman <pwiechman at talkware.net> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] Problems compiling X: makedepend/Imakefile errors - HELP!? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > All, > > Anyone come across this error when trying to compile XFree86? This > occurs at the same place on every 3 & 4 version of X. > > Thanks for any help. > > Paul > > Building Release 6.4 of the X Window System. > > I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf > to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS. > > Fri Mar 30 19:22:52 CST 2001 > > cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" CC="cc" > clean > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xc/config/imake' > rm -f ccimake imake.o imake > rm -f *.CKP *.ln *.BAK *.bak *.o core errs ,* *~ *.a tags TAGS make.log > \#* > rm -f -r Makefile.proto Makefile Makefile.dep bootstrap > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/xc/config/imake' > make Makefile.boot > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xc' > cd ./config/imake && make -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" CC="cc" > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/xc/config/imake' > making imake with BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= in config/imake > cc -o ccimake -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 > ccimake.c > cc -c -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 `./ccimake` > imake.c > cc -o imake -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 imake.o > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/xc/config/imake' > rm -f ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto > ./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf -s > ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto -f ./config/makedepend/Imakefile > -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/makedepend > In file included from config/cf/Imake.tmpl:1724, > from Imakefile.c:32: > config/makedepend/Imakefile:48: unterminated string or character > constant > config/makedepend/Imakefile:21: possible real start of unterminated > constant > config/makedepend/Imakefile:19: unterminated `#if' conditional > ./config/imake/imake: Exit code 1. > Stop. > make[1]: *** [config/makedepend/Makefile.proto] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/xc' > make: *** [World] Error 2 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: "Matthew M. LaBerge" <labmat at mn.mediaone.net> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Power Converter > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:11:22 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://2cooltek.safeshopper.com/ > > ---Office Bitch--- > "At your service sir... anything for a raise sir." > labmat at mn.mediaone.net > labmat at augusttech.com > http://www.labmat.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org]On > Behalf Of Perry Hoekstra > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:05 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] Power Converter > > Greet the sun all: > > Does anyone know where I can purchase some three to four pin > converters? I am putting in some extra fans in my box an I am looking > some converters to plug into my ATX power supply. I have tried both > Tran Micro and my local Radio Shack with no joy. > > Thank you, > > -- > Perry Hoekstra > E-Commerce Architect > Talent Software Services > perry.hoekstra at talentemail.com > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:31:48 -0600 > From: "Doug Hanson" <dhanson2 at uswest.net> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] compatitble video cards for RedHat 7.0 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > My 32mb Matrox G400 works just fine under 7 > > Doug > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Dagastino" <scottdagastino at yahoo.com> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:12 AM > Subject: [TCLUG] compatitble video cards for RedHat 7.0 > > > I'm currently running RedHat 7.0 on a Athlon 900. I > > only have a 8mb video card and looking for a 32mb > > card. > > > > I know there is a compatibility list at redhat.com, > > but does anyone have any recommendations for a 32mb > > ram video card that will work just fine with RH 7.0. > > I would be looking at ease of use being very/very/very > > easy. > > > > Scott > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text > > _______________________________________________ > > tclug-list mailing list > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest