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>    1. smbmount (Miller, John)
>    2. Re: DSL woes (Shawn)
>    3. Re: DSL woes (Shawn)
>    4. Re: smbmount (Thomas T. Veldhouse)
>    5. Re: DSL woes (Thomas T. Veldhouse)
>    6. Re: DSL woes (Bradley D. Larson)
>    7. Re: DSL woes (Phil Mendelsohn)
>    8. Re: Z-Series thread (Nick.T.Reinking at supervalu.com)
>    9. Re: smbmount (Andy Zbikowski)
>   10. Re: DSL woes (Shawn)
>   11. Re: DSL woes (Thomas T. Veldhouse)
>   12. Re: DSL woes (Troy Johnson)
>   13. modprobe eth0 fails after kernel upgrade (Brady Hegberg)
>   14. Re: DSL woes (David Dyer-Bennet)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Miller, John" <JMiller2 at dainrauscher.com>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:40:58 -0500
> Subject: [TCLUG] smbmount
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> When I issue the following command:
> smbmount //DRC3225/d /mnt/work
> Password: ********
>
> I get the following error.  Could someone tell me what this means.  I
> suppect that it has somethine to do with the DRC3225.  That is the name of
> the windows machine that I am trying to mount.
>
> tree connect failed: ERRSRV - ERRinvnetname (Invalid network name in tree
> connect.)
> SMB connection failed
>
> I am running RH7.0 and have mounted windows machines in the past but the
> directions I wrote to myself are on a sticker at home.  BTW I am trying to
> do this through a telnet connection.  Do I need to be root when I do this?
>
> TIA
>
> John Miller
> Dain Rauscher Inc.
> Application Services
> IS Capital Markets
> Phone 612-547-7573
> Fax 612-547-7580
> mailto:jmiller2 at dainrauscher.com
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:08:14 -0500
> From: Shawn <fertch at mninter.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> What about Girard and 53rd in Minneapolis?  Friend of mine who lived
> there moved to get DSL out in the "burbs."  Well okay, to get a bigger
> house as well.
>
> Troy Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Indeed! Fridley (at least my part) seems to fit this definition of "boonies" also.
> >
> > >>> veldy at veldy.net 04/05/01 09:20PM >>>
> > Not everybody lives in the boonies who can't DSL.  I would go so far as to
> > say most don't.  There was a lot of crappy copper put up on the poles during
> > from the 50s to the 70s.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:10:34 -0500
> From: Shawn <fertch at mninter.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you consider Burnsville and Eagan the boonies?  It's not a problem of
> > > only civilized areas getting DSL (or any broadband).  It's a problem
> > > that there isn't any incentive for the telcom companies to roll out
> > > faster.
> >
> > Yes, those are definitely the boonies.
> >
> > Burnsville, for example, is something like half an hour south of me,
> > and I'm south of downtown; it's a *long* way out.
>
> Damn, I'd hate to hear what you think of those of us who live in Forest
> Lake, Ham Lake (well okay, that's that boonies to me) and such on the
> northeast part of town.  Hell, Woodbury is a "boonie burb" and they have
> both DSL and Broadband.  As does Inver Grove Heights and such....
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy at veldy.net>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] smbmount
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:28:37 -0500
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> I have not used the command in a long time, but the windows world is
> backwards -- so you should try:
>
> smbmount \\DRC3225\d /mnt/work
>
> Notice the direction of the slashes.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy at veldy.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miller, John" <JMiller2 at dainrauscher.com>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:40 AM
> Subject: [TCLUG] smbmount
>
> > When I issue the following command:
> > smbmount //DRC3225/d /mnt/work
> > Password: ********
> >
> > I get the following error.  Could someone tell me what this means.  I
> > suppect that it has somethine to do with the DRC3225.  That is the name of
> > the windows machine that I am trying to mount.
> >
> > tree connect failed: ERRSRV - ERRinvnetname (Invalid network name in tree
> > connect.)
> > SMB connection failed
> >
> > I am running RH7.0 and have mounted windows machines in the past but the
> > directions I wrote to myself are on a sticker at home.  BTW I am trying to
> > do this through a telnet connection.  Do I need to be root when I do this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > John Miller
> > Dain Rauscher Inc.
> > Application Services
> > IS Capital Markets
> > Phone 612-547-7573
> > Fax 612-547-7580
> > mailto:jmiller2 at dainrauscher.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > tclug-list mailing list
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
>
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> Message: 5
> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy at veldy.net>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:30:01 -0500
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> And Stillwater.  My brother can get 1.2M/1.2M connection from QWest -- and
> the home he lives in is 60 years old.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy at veldy.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn" <fertch at mninter.net>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
>
> > David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do you consider Burnsville and Eagan the boonies?  It's not a problem
> of
> > > > only civilized areas getting DSL (or any broadband).  It's a problem
> > > > that there isn't any incentive for the telcom companies to roll out
> > > > faster.
> > >
> > > Yes, those are definitely the boonies.
> > >
> > > Burnsville, for example, is something like half an hour south of me,
> > > and I'm south of downtown; it's a *long* way out.
> >
> >
> > Damn, I'd hate to hear what you think of those of us who live in Forest
> > Lake, Ham Lake (well okay, that's that boonies to me) and such on the
> > northeast part of town.  Hell, Woodbury is a "boonie burb" and they have
> > both DSL and Broadband.  As does Inver Grove Heights and such....
> > _______________________________________________
> > tclug-list mailing list
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:30:49 -0500
> From: "Bradley D. Larson" <blarson at crary.com>
> Organization: Crary Company
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
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> I've never seen such a group of whiners.... most of the messages the last few days
> have been about the woes of DSL in the metropolitain areas...
>
> I've had to put have my DSL installed in another town and broadcast it across
> country via wireless... (at my own expense). Start adding up the costs...
>
> $   35 phone line at remote location /month
>      60 DSL service / month
>  2000 wireless Access Point capable of trx long distances (incl. ant.)
>    700 Station Adapter (incl. ant.)
>    100 ant lease at elevator
>    ???  Install ant. on top of grain elevator and cable
> -------
> $2895 before I ever get to log on the net...
>       95 every month there after
>
> This isn't a my story is worse than yours... It's GET A GRIP, solve your personal
> problems
> and move on to something more relevant to LINUX.
>
> SoapboxMode OFF
>
> >> Burnsville, for example, is something like half an hour south of me,
> >> and I'm south of downtown; it's a *long* way out.
>
> >You must drive really slow.  I can get into downtown Minneapolis or St.
> >Paul in about 20 minutes.
>
> >Compared to where I lived in Maine and New York, this is definately not
> >the boonies.  If you're 20 minutes from an Interstate and a majority of
> >your neighbors are farms or gravel pits, then you're in the boonies.
> >You city slickers need to get out more.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:44:16 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Phil Mendelsohn <mend0070 at tc.umn.edu>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Shawn wrote:
>
> > Damn, I'd hate to hear what you think of those of us who live in Forest
> > Lake, Ham Lake (well okay, that's that boonies to me) and such on the
> > northeast part of town.  Hell, Woodbury is a "boonie burb" and they have
> > both DSL and Broadband.  As does Inver Grove Heights and such....
>
> Hang on -- be careful about distorting geography.  The difference between
> the eastern and western 'burbs is that it's fifteen miles from downtown
> St. Paul to the WI border, whereas that same 15 miles west puts you in
> Plymouth or Eden Prairie (more or less.)  Different pattern of development
> too -- the cornfields in Woodbury were a lot closer to 3M world HQ than
> the cornfields in the west/SW 'burbs...
>
> --
> "To misattribute a quote is unforgivable." --Anonymous
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:47:57 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Nick.T.Reinking at supervalu.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Z-Series thread
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> --Boundary_(ID_3tekg2lCAj7YfGx81fka5A)
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>
> > For example, we have Linux in an LPAR w/ 1024MB of memory.  This LPAR
> > resided on a 6 CPU 1,271 MIPS partition w/ 18GB of memory.
>         I though LPAR == partition?
>
> Argh, my bad.  Let me restate it:
>
> For example, we have Linux in an LPAR w/ 1024MB of memory.  This LPAR
> resided on a 6 CPU 1,271 MIPS Sysplex w/ 18GB of memory.
>
> Much better.  (I apologize, I'm a UNIX guy, not a Mainframe guy, so my
> terminology gets skewed from time-to-time.)
>
> - Nick Reinking
>
> --Boundary_(ID_3tekg2lCAj7YfGx81fka5A)--
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:49:18 -0500
> From: Andy Zbikowski <administrator at ltiflex.com>
> Organization: LTI Flexible Products
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] smbmount
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
> >
> > I have not used the command in a long time, but the windows world is
> > backwards -- so you should try:
> >
> > smbmount \\DRC3225\d /mnt/work
> >
> > Notice the direction of the slashes.
>
> The windows world is backwards, but the UNIX world isn't. Even though it's a
> windows machine the slashes still go forward (//host/share)
>
> Try mount -t smbfs -o
> username=XXXXX,password=YYYYY,netbiosname=whatever,ip=ipofhostyouremounting,workgroup=workgroup
> //server/share /mnt/whatever
>
> You must do the above as root. smbmount is intended to be called from mount,
> just use the options you need. If you want to mount things as a normal user
> they have to be in fstab, or just use smbclient.
>
> --
> Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin   | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com
> LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH)  763-428-9119 (EX) 132
> 21801 Industrial Blvd       | (FX)  763-428-9126
> Rogers, MN  55374           | (PCS) 612-306-6055
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:47:06 -0500
> From: Shawn <fertch at mninter.net>
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Phil Mendelsohn wrote:
> > Hang on -- be careful about distorting geography.  The difference between
> > the eastern and western 'burbs is that it's fifteen miles from downtown
> > St. Paul to the WI border, whereas that same 15 miles west puts you in
> > Plymouth or Eden Prairie (more or less.)  Different pattern of development
> > too -- the cornfields in Woodbury were a lot closer to 3M world HQ than
> > the cornfields in the west/SW 'burbs...
> >
>
> Part of the issue is that given development and expansion, they (meaning
> telco's and such) will go to where money is.  Meaning that the SW 'burbs
> will get things more than nearly any other areas first.  Why?  Because
> the business revenue, coupled with the fact that many of the residents
> of those areas are of a higher income.  Hence, the reason why Stillwater
> and IGH has high speed connectivity (residential income).  Someone was
> right in saying that there's a price to pay for living in the outer
> cities, but then again there's a price to pay anywhere.
>
> While I may gripe about having to pay the price I do for ISDN, I'm glad
> that I am able to pay that price (meaning I have a job).  But in the
> meantime, I'm going to keep hounding Qwest to put DSL (of some type) in
> as well as hound AT&T to buy out the stinking little cable company in
> our town (Citation Cable owned by US Cable).
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy at veldy.net>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:48:33 -0500
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> The area of Stillwater he is in is most definitely NOT high income.  Low to
> moderate would be a more accurate assessment.  The homes are very old and
> probably selling at a premium (I digress -- our economy will correct and
> when it does, we will see that we entered a resession last November) -- so
> the copper is old and there is not a lot of cash in the neighborhoods.  I
> don't know if the theory of DSL where the Money is applies.  Incidentally,
> DSL in Maple Grove is nearly non-existant.  Again -- a blow to that theory.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy at veldy.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn" <fertch at mninter.net>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
>
> > Phil Mendelsohn wrote:
> > > Hang on -- be careful about distorting geography.  The difference
> between
> > > the eastern and western 'burbs is that it's fifteen miles from downtown
> > > St. Paul to the WI border, whereas that same 15 miles west puts you in
> > > Plymouth or Eden Prairie (more or less.)  Different pattern of
> development
> > > too -- the cornfields in Woodbury were a lot closer to 3M world HQ than
> > > the cornfields in the west/SW 'burbs...
> > >
> >
> >
> > Part of the issue is that given development and expansion, they (meaning
> > telco's and such) will go to where money is.  Meaning that the SW 'burbs
> > will get things more than nearly any other areas first.  Why?  Because
> > the business revenue, coupled with the fact that many of the residents
> > of those areas are of a higher income.  Hence, the reason why Stillwater
> > and IGH has high speed connectivity (residential income).  Someone was
> > right in saying that there's a price to pay for living in the outer
> > cities, but then again there's a price to pay anywhere.
> >
> > While I may gripe about having to pay the price I do for ISDN, I'm glad
> > that I am able to pay that price (meaning I have a job).  But in the
> > meantime, I'm going to keep hounding Qwest to put DSL (of some type) in
> > as well as hound AT&T to buy out the stinking little cable company in
> > our town (Citation Cable owned by US Cable).
> > _______________________________________________
> > tclug-list mailing list
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:24:50 -0500
> From: "Troy Johnson" <Troy.A.Johnson at state.mn.us>
> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Though you qualify the statement, I do not regard it as any less a whine than the others (including my own). I don't have $3k+ to burn, and though I am glad you can solve your own personal problems that way, "I solved my connectivity problems by blowing tons of cash" doesn't help me at all. I want to hear a bit about connectivity issues here (DSL included) because that is something I wish to do with Linux.
>
> Admittedly, we've had enough "DSL woes" for a while, but I don't think I should have to "move where DSL is available" and I think that ( NoDSL == "boonies" ) is a silly thing to say and should be corrected. And I think it has.
>
> >>> blarson at crary.com 04/06/01 09:30AM >>>
> SoapboxMode ON
>
> I've never seen such a group of whiners.... most of the messages the last few days
> have been about the woes of DSL in the metropolitain areas...
>
> I've had to put have my DSL installed in another town and broadcast it across
> country via wireless... (at my own expense). Start adding up the costs...
>
> $   35 phone line at remote location /month
>      60 DSL service / month
>  2000 wireless Access Point capable of trx long distances (incl. ant.)
>    700 Station Adapter (incl. ant.)
>    100 ant lease at elevator
>    ???  Install ant. on top of grain elevator and cable
> -------
> $2895 before I ever get to log on the net...
>       95 every month there after
>
> This isn't a my story is worse than yours... It's GET A GRIP, solve your personal
> problems
> and move on to something more relevant to LINUX.
>
> SoapboxMode OFF
>
> >> Burnsville, for example, is something like half an hour south of me,
> >> and I'm south of downtown; it's a *long* way out.
>
> >You must drive really slow.  I can get into downtown Minneapolis or St.
> >Paul in about 20 minutes.
>
> >Compared to where I lived in Maine and New York, this is definately not
> >the boonies.  If you're 20 minutes from an Interstate and a majority of
> >your neighbors are farms or gravel pits, then you're in the boonies.
> >You city slickers need to get out more.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:37:36 -0500
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> From: Brady Hegberg <bradyh at bitstream.net>
> Subject: [TCLUG] modprobe eth0 fails after kernel upgrade
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> I'm using Redhat 6.0 and I upgraded my kernel to 2.2.17 using Redhat's RPMs
> but now I get a message in my log that says:
>
>      modprobe: can't locate module eth0
>
> My modules.conf file has this line:
>
>      alias eth0 3c59x
>
> I searched for the 3c59x file with no luck - though I did find the 3c59x.o
> file.
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks,
> Brady
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] DSL woes
> From: David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b at dd-b.net>
> Date: 06 Apr 2001 11:41:29 -0500
> Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>
> Nate Straz <nate at techie.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:23:59AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > > Nate Straz <nate at techie.com> writes:
> > > > Do you consider Burnsville and Eagan the boonies?  It's not a problem of
> > >
> > > Yes, those are definitely the boonies.
> > >
> > > Burnsville, for example, is something like half an hour south of me,
> > > and I'm south of downtown; it's a *long* way out.
> >
> > You must drive really slow.  I can get into downtown Minneapolis or St.
> > Paul in about 20 minutes.
>
> I rarely drive more than 5 or 10 mph over the limit.
>
> > Compared to where I lived in Maine and New York, this is definately not
> > the boonies.  If you're 20 minutes from an Interstate and a majority of
> > your neighbors are farms or gravel pits, then you're in the boonies.
> > You city slickers need to get out more.
>
> Why?  Is there anything interesting there?
>
> :-)
> --
> David Dyer-Bennet      /      Welcome to the future!      /      dd-b at dd-b.net
> SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/          Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/
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