> Of course, I can verify, after many late nights at the bars, that beer and > Unix do not mix, especially when trying to fix something that is seriously > broken. Or was that beer and routers.... In any case, blurry terminals and > keyboards that seem to move do not help. still, I have found alcohol to be helpful when contemplating complex configuration files. slows my brain down enough that I don't get too easily distracted by the nearest shiny object. :) took me two beers to understand XF86Config; only one to understand OpenBSD firewalling; and a whiskey every night to deal with this mailing list. ;> Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700