> For a flight stick/throttle go with a Saitek X36 ($100). For an all purpose > joystick, nothing beats a Logitech WingMan ($40-70 depending on whether or > not you want FF). I looked at one of those X36s in a store once... truly an amazing number of knobs, buttons, wheels, levers, &c on them. The flip-cover on the 'launch' button is a nice touch. :) looking over Saitek's website, tho; it looks like the X36 is USB-only. do you know if all the doohickeys work under Linux, over the USB interface? it occurs to me that there are so many buttons on this thing, it's almost concievable to map them to keys and make a chording keyboard out of it. :) I've seen Saitek's 'Cyborg' joysticks in stores as well... anyone have experience with those things? do they work well under Linux, over the USB interface? Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700