At 10:55 AM 6/1/01, Nate wrote: >check out http://www.orbs.org. > >What's up? I do not know the full details. My limited understanding is: Alan put some Telecom New Zealand/Extra/Actrix IPs in the inputs zone which didn't qualify for listing per the policy stated on the website. (i.e., they were not verified open by the automated tester) Alan got sued and various legal things happened. Alan posted a 'NOTICE TO ALL' to news.admin.net-abuse.email and a few other online venues. You can find it here: See: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search exact phrase: Manawatu Internet Services Limited newsgroup: news.admin.net-abuse.email I should stress that the full story has not come out and Alan's statement may have been made under duress. We probably won't know the full details until it's all over.