David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > Well, I didn't customize the list of packages to upgrade, so it's > their fault :-). I suppose I won't get much sympathy here for getting > scrod by RedHat. > > Yes, manually probing for ipchains works. Thanks! Sorry, that's what I meant. Wasn't completely clear on that. I did a full install because there wasn't anything I wanted to keep on the old install and I had messed some things up. :-) sim