You could try jdb! :) My guess is that's what emacs is using though I haven't ever tried it. I'm suprised that jbuilder dies on you, I've not had that particular problem. I think anything you use to debug java is going to be "god-awful slow". Just the nature of the beast. Bob Tanner wrote: > > I am really getting desperate for a -good- debugger for Java. > > I downloaded jde for emacs and the debugger is klunky and very slow. > > I went to jbuilder and it crashes on my constantly. > > I tried Forte and it's god-awful slow. > > Anything I'm missing? -- Jesse Erdmann Engineer Secure Computing Corp.