ibm's java ide and debugger are probably the best out there (in my
opinion) - and it is available for linux, although not in the enterprise
edition (group development and repository sharing). i use it on a 550mhz
mandrake box with very few problems. i use VA and forte quite regularly.
neither is perfect though.

yes, it does require you to import all your classes into it's own
workspace/repository, but it doesn't really take all that long. i work on
projects with thousands of classes and once you get the hang of the OO
development paradigm it's really simple overall. it's different at first
because you only work on objects, down to the method level, and you never
see the entire .java file. it's roots are in ibm's smalltalk ide.

it's biggest downfall is that it's bloatware. huge. probably close to 300MB
once extracted. and it's also often behind in it's support for the newest
version of java.

the coolest thing about it is that you can modify your code while in a debug
process, and it just starts again at the top of the current method
invocation.

the demo allows for the creation of 500 classes, i think, which is often
more than enough for personal use. i noticed that with the upgrade from 3.0
to 3.02, it lost the fact that it was only a demo and ended up giving me the
full version. this may be the case with later versions also.

colin.





> -----Original Message-----
> From: tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org
> [mailto:tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bresnahan
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 12:21 PM
> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Java IDEs for linux
>
>
> IBM Visual Age Java has a good debugger, but that's the only
> thing of merit
> in the tool.  However, you cannot use the debugger without importing your
> code into the tool's repository.  The import process can take a
> long time if
> you have a lot of code - many minutes.  Additionlly, I do not
> think the tool
> has been ported to linux, but I could be wrong.
>
> BTW, I also need a good debugger for Java.
>
> Mike
>
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> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:26 PM
> Subject: [TCLUG] Java IDEs for linux
>
>
> > I am really getting desperate for a -good- debugger for Java.
> >
> > I downloaded jde for emacs and the debugger is klunky and very slow.
> >
> > I went to jbuilder and it crashes on my constantly.
> >
> > I tried Forte and it's god-awful slow.
> >
> > Anything I'm missing?
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