Scott Dier writes: And holds you down to a license even my mother knows to avoid.</rant> Yes, I'd prefer the GPL. But you can, and people do, distribute patches. If you don't like qmail for whatever reason, I agree that Postfix is also a great choice. I've used it and liked it. Don't promote software like that when there are viable Freer alternatives. I appreciate and share your commitment to freedom. qmail is free enough for my purposes, and I know it best. I feel most comfortable recommending it for those reasons. -- Chris www.innerfireworks.com How can you say this is not Eden?