THEY BOTH SUCK! Mandrake is just completely freaked out - a lot of things weren't doing what they're supposed to (aterm, for example). Might be a beta thing but I dunno. Wolverine formats every partition it sees even when you tell it not to, and for the first time I ran into gcc 2.96 problems - things wouldn't build right. I tried to build gcc 2.95 with it and THAT didn't work! Argh. So I put FreeBSD on... since there was a network outage (Bob!!!) I couldn't DL a new image so I put 4.1.1 on and have been cvsup and make worlding for a few hours (; Probably go back to Linux eventually, when FreeBSD does the Really-Slow-X thing. When I finally get X up... (: -Yaron --