>>>>> "Z" == Zibby <Andy> writes: Z> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: >> RPM --- gotta love it :) >> Z> In this case it's not so much as the RPM format, it's the Z> packagers. The KDE folks were never very good a following Z> guidelines for packages. I tried the official KDE debs from Z> kde.org. They liked to break. Then I found the debs on Z> kde.tydc.com. Mmmm...much better. Z> If you can't find RPMs blessed by Red Hat, you're most likely Z> going to be stuck doing it the hard way. (Removing the old Z> before installing the new.) Actually, I'm pretty sure this is not KDE's fault. Their web site has the following disclaimer: "Some distributors choose to provide binary packages of KDE for certain versions of their distribution. Some of these binary packages for KDE 2.1 will be available for free download under http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.1/distribution/ or under the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server mirrors. Please note that the KDE team is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third parties -- typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant distribution." Seems like what I *really* should do is give up on the RPMs and compile the blasted things myself. Z> Shamless Debian plug: apt-get install task-kde tempting, but then I'd have to figure out a new way to configure boot and services. I'm already spending far more time maintaining my boxen than using them.... :-0 Cheers all, R