>my thoughts on that, are that it's like Solaris... you can add all the GNU >tools, compile all the Linux programs, and make it a really cool >environment. >at which point you have to ask yourself 'why bother with the other OS in the >first place'? >what'll be very cool (and likely to come, I think); is OSX binary >compatibility with Linux. :) So when Photoshop is fully OSX-ized[1]; it'll be a >small step from there to running it on LinuxPPC or {Net|Open}BSD on PPC. :) There will still be a gap between ready for OSX and ready for UNIX in general. However, the step from Darwin to any other UNIX is mostly a recompile issue. Any other UNIX to Darwin is a recompile issue. OSX may have a BSD core (Darwin), but the layers on top of Darwin that eventually give you Aqua aren't exactly portable, or open. (Not being a Mac person (yet) and nor really following OSX, I don't have a grasp on Cocoa, Carbon, etc.) So why build GNU stuff on Darwin? (Darwin != OSX, OSX == Darwin + Carbon + Cocoa + Aqua + lots of other stuff.) Because you can get all OSX has to offer (All OSX apps + classic Mac apps), with GNU software as a side bonus. Since Kevin didn't provide the links, the rootless Xfree on OSX info is here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=72936&forum_id=57136 http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/20/2015239.shtml http://www.mit.edu/~rueckert/XFreeAqua.jpg http://www.mit.edu/~rueckert/XFreeAqua2.jpg Still not ready for prime time though. Tenon Intersystems is developing a nice looking set of Xtools for OSX: http://www.tenon.com/products/xtools/ Xtools also includes the necessary libraries to support porting X client applications to Mac OS X. I'm just glancing at Tenon's site right now, but it looks like they've successfuly build gtk+, gnomelib, etc. for yse with their tools, and it looks a heck of alot better the the XonX project (at least for now.) If I get a Mac w/ OSX I would definitly consider getting Tenon's Xtools as well. -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: andyzb.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 367 bytes Desc: Card for Andy Zbikowski Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20010307/7b03f9f6/andyzb.vcf