> I even went to far as to set up an intranet for commonly used files, EMC test > reports, phone lists, common web pages and even antivirus updates (I ended up > having to use login scripts (NT) for antivirus updates, but then they piss > and moan when their computer reboots even though the script warns them.) but > I can't even get the hardware engineers to use the intranet, they still come > to me for hardcopies or CDs for test reports. Shit, click, open and print > how hard is that? at my last job, I had a couple of lusers who had trouble dealing with the concept of a network. They always came to me, asking for a floppy with a file on it. (when that selfsame file was perfectly accessible on the fileserver). after dealing with this for a while, trying to explain to them how much easier it is to just access the file over the network; I gave up trying to use reason, and actively demonstrated at every opportunity how to get the file over the network. (and refused to give it to them on a floppy unless they had a good excuse). I did eventually have some success. :) Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700