dieman has a Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold joystick. The neat thing about it is that it comes with a tool (or mutiple tools?) that let you take it apart and adjust it for left or right handed (grips, throttle, etc. can be taken off and reattached.) You can adjust the tilt for the top thumb buttons, etc. very nice stick overall. If I find myself in need of a joystick, this one is at the top of the list. http://www.saitekusa.com/product/joy.htm Looks like the Cyborg 2000 has the same feature. Good left handed joysticks are hard to find, kudos to the designers of this one. Even supported in Linux as a USB Human Input Device. | Andrew S. Zbikowski | Home: 763.591.0977 | | http://www.ringworld.org | Work: 763.428.9119 | | http://www.itouthouse.com | PCS: 612.306.6055 | | His power apparently lies in his ability to | | choose incompetent enemies. | | - Crow T. Robot, MST3K, "Prince of Space" |