ls -l /dev/hdc 1> add users to the cdrom group and chown root:cdrom /dev/cdrom && chmod 660 /dev/cdrom. 2> chmod 666 /dev/cdrom - given it's a cdrom, 666 is an OK mode to give it. It's not ideal, but it'll do, and you don't have to deal with group security. -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055