I think that was why they started blackhole-ing their competition. The market was a little too open. But, since they started getting a little more up-itty (Macromedia) and started charging for once free services, they might not stay on top of their game for long. I suppose it might depend on how much they're charging: subsistance money vs. "getting fat off of Bob's hard (but free) labor" money. How much is it? >>> tanner at real-time.com 05/22/01 03:55PM >>> Did I miss something? I swear mail-abuse.org use to allow free zone transfers of blackholes.mail-abuse.org, relays.mail-abuse.org and dialups.mail-abuse.org. But now they are charging for it. Did I miss the change? I swear it was for free before. I feel like the whole CDDB thing. I have sent in thousands of open relays and now they want to charge ME for the work. -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 _______________________________________________ tclug-list mailing list tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list