At 04:17 PM 5/22/01, Troy wrote: >I think that was why they started blackhole-ing their competition. The >market was a little too open. > >But, since they started getting a little more up-itty (Macromedia) and >started charging for once free services, they might not stay on top of >their game for long. I suppose it might depend on how much they're >charging: subsistance money vs. "getting fat off of Bob's hard (but free) >labor" money. How much is it? The direct queries are still available without charge. The pricing for zone transfer subscriptions are published at http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/pricing.html Also of note: " Educational institutions, non-profits, and members of selected ISP trade associations may (at our sole discretion) be eligible for discounts; please contact us with a proposal. " (Yeah, I work for MAPS. No I'm not going to debate MAPS policies here.)