>>> tanner at real-time.com 05/25/01 12:39PM >>> >Is php the write language of implementation? I hate web-scripting languages (not >a flame or flame-bait). Most because of the mixing of presentation (html) with >business logic (the code). Make for a messy project that is hard to maintain and >even HARDER for non-technical people to update the look-n-feel. ... >I'm a champion of java and Enhydra, which is something I highly recommend people >look at for web development. Bob, Messy projects are typically implemented in a web-scripting language because they are simple/easy, so you can get from A to B fast without too much planning (for better and much worse). I think php could be used for this project, and it could be "done right" through a judicious use of includes and php "classes" to separate presentation from logic. In other words, I don't think it is necessarily a web scripting language's fault that messy people (or people with _no_ time) choose it. That said, I have not used java (much) and Enhydra (at all) in my dabbling with web development and I would like to know what the benefits are. You are it's champion, please extol it's virtues... :-) Have a fabulous day, Troy