That may be true for applets and stuff running in browsers, but it seems fine for things like JSPs or other applications. I've had a few nits with it here, but for the most part it's great. Most of our problems were way down in the networking stuff. Yes, it's still slower than C, but while you shouldn't expect a Java app written for Windows to just up and run (maybe only a few minor issues here and there, and once you fix the Linux code you can usually take that code and run it on both Windows and Linux, not sure about Solaris) it's not nearly as bad as porting C. Yaron wrote: And Java under Linux is HORRIBLE. I've still not got it going decently in > Mozilla, and Netscape sure doesn't need any help crashing... > > I'd pretty much stay away from Java for anything that's going to be viewed > by a lot of Linux/UNIX people. > -- Jesse Erdmann Engineer Secure Computing Corp.