I just found out that there's a beta version of MS Office for MacOSX. it's been available for a couple of weeks; and the guy I talked to says it's pretty reliable. the interesting thing is the way it does license checking... apparently it opens a TCP port and searches for other machines running Office with the same serial #. however, since OSX is BSD-based, someone wrote an ipfw script to block those ports; and with that running, the application thinks it's the only machine on the network with that software. :) has anyone heard of a project to make OSX binaries (ones with a native OSX GUI) run on linux? this could be the leverage needed to take over the desktop, and make migration from windows to *nix easier for companies. Carl Soderstrom -- Insert witty comment here.