I hung out at Otto Schmitt's lab at the U. a little before that time. He 
got the first Altair (dip switch booted and cassette tape) but I didn't 
get much time on it. The color monitor was quite a marvel. He also worked 
on 3D renditions and proposed medical home care applications. He had more 
great ideas than he could handle. Of course he invented digital 
electronics. A wonderful time had by all.

The Epson QX-10 was my first gem. Only two 256K floppies, but it excelled 
over Apple with a hi-res graphics daughter-board. In real mode, long (10 
minutes) programs made you want to kick the computer to see if it was 
still on. The screen was blank until people would say, "Ahhh" and a 3D 
picture would slowly emerge.

Apple Basic was quite powerful, and interfacing the system transformed 
scientific instrumentation. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10/29/01, 9:11:38 PM, Jack Ungerleider <jack at jacku.com> wrote regarding 
Re: More Old "War Stories" (Was: [TCLUG] vi vs. emacs):


> On Monday 29 October 2001 10:57, you wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 12:35:14PM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
> > > On 27 Oct 2001, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
> > > > Andrew Nemchenko <drew at usfamily.net> writes:
> .
> >
> > > The command line was a line number based BASIC interpreter or worse.
> > > 480x320 graphics was really good, and only used by scientists and
> > > gamers. The IBM PC with MSDOS wasn't due till 81.
> >
> > You've forgotten entirely about Altair and all the CP/M systems out 
there.
> >
> One of the coolest CP/M systems I ever used was put out by Sony. It had 
great
> graphics for its day. I built a "Booth Locator" system for the National
> Association of Broadcasters convention in '84 on one of these. It was
> programmed entirely in BASIC. The system had 64K of RAM, I think, and two
> 3.5" Floppies that held... gee I don't remember but it wasn't the 720K 
that
> we associate with PC/MS-DOS DSDD 3.5" diskettes.

> > > In the 70's Harddrives were spec'd out in small numbers of Megabytes,
> > > memory was allocated by the Kilobyte, and 9600 bd was fast.
> >
> > Yes, but they weren't bloated -- one could implement an accounting
> > package for a mid-sized company in 8k of memory.  Really!
> >

> One of my first programming jobs that paid was to cleanup an "ATM 
Simulator"
> for one of the big banks in the Philadelphia area. We used a 6502 board
> designed as a video card for an 8088 system. It originally had 2K RAM and 
a
> 2K character set EPROM. The maker modified the board to accept a card 
with 2
> or 3 additional 2K EPROMs. We did it with room to spare. ;-)

> >
> > Phil "Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate" Mendelsohn ;)

> --
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