I am having problems using the hosts.{allow|deny} with IMAPs and POP3s it seems that the tcp wrapper is denying access to those ports, in the hosts.deny i have: ALL: ALL and in the hosts.allow i have ALL: {my subnet} sendmail: ALL named: ALL httpd: ALL sshd: ALL imapd: ALL ipop3d: ALL but for some reason i cannot access imapd and ipop3d through telnet (connection refused) i am using WU-imapd,ipop3d with stunnel, machines in my subnet are working. -munir --