Yep- They spanned a huge range and you could get them really tricked-out and wicked fast. The big variances in SGI come from teh graphics options, teh ones for sale here have a couple of different graphics options, if you're picking one up, ask one of the guys to explain the differences to you. SGI has some wicked graphics and they use a lot of memory (system) to do some of it. some people complain that SGI hasn't improved it's graphics and such for a long time, because they haven't seen anything that says they have. You don't tend to buy an SGI and stick an Nvidia in it to improve it's graphics, SGI just marks taht as a part of the whole package and teh differences between the 3 year old O2 and one made this year are pretty amazing. They make changes, but because it's a part of the system, and the cards are not separate, they don't hype them the way other vendors do because the card is in the box. All I can say is, they're wicked boxes, and I'm happy to get them out to as many people as want them, I really love SGI, and I can't say enough for how cool the hardware is, but I'll leave further ranting to those that purchase a system, I think they'll be pleased. thanks for your time, mbutler The indigo2 went from 25 to 60k and the indy went from a paltry 6k to 20k. By the way I have an extra indy that I could part with for around 100 and an extra zip scsi that works very well with sgi machines. Colin