I played with the gnu-dawrwin stuff for a few hours one day. I was very excited to have found it. But I was quickly disapointed at the implementation.I tried doing the install from within os X with little luck. I also nabbed the install iso and did a clean install of gnu-darwin. It sucked pretty well. The setup was nothing put a bunch of deb's unpacking themselves. In the end you are left to a shell with litte/nothing to guide you. It was quite a let down. Granted I did not spend a huge amount of time with it, I did invest some time, and my conclusion is that gnu-darwin is still very immature. The mailing list is also quite sparce. On a brighter note. FINK kicks alot of tail. I really really like fink. The maintainer is on OPN and is quite helpful. The utility is fairly limited in as far as what is ported, but it is well documented and robust. It is built on the dpkg suite from the popular Debian distro. Also, let me say, mac hardware rules. And anyone that would like to chip in to the buy spencer and IPOD fund may do so. Please send cash. * Kevin Bullock (kbullock at ringworld.org) wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Browne, Kris A. (TC) > > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2001 10:55 AM > > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'; Powell, Mike D. (CC-IS) > > Subject: OSX.1 as a *nix > > > > I have been using OSX for about 7 months now, not primarily as a > > replacement for MacOS, but as a replacement for LinuxPPC as well. > > > > Mac OSX is a hybrid *nix, a cross between NeXT/OpenStep (which was > > in turn derived from BSD 4.1) and FreeBSD. The filesystem layout > > is derived from the changes that happened for NeXT, making > > directories easier to setup for netboot and their derivative of > > NIS, NetInfo. The display system is derived from the NeXTStep > > Display Postscript model, updated to use PDF instead as a more > > recent standard. There are some things which that NeXT heritage > > brings to the table that Apple hasn't fully used yet, like built-in > > kernel support for clustering, the above-mentioned netboot, and > > cross-platform binary compatability (under openstep, the same > > BINARY could run on Sparc, i386, or NeXT68k). FreeBSD brings to > > the table a better TCP stack, better filesystem compatability, the > > BSD's most recent stable port of GCC, and a better set of tools all > > around. > > > > I saw somebody posted about Fink, which is definity cool, but since > > we're all geeks here, I'll confide in you all that the way to go is > > the Darwin ports collection, a direct port of the BSD ports tree > > system. It is much more flexible, and gives you access to a LOT > > more software. You can get all the details at > > http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net. The guy who maintains it was > > just profiled by Apple, you can find that on their site.... > > > > I hope this sheds some light on the subject... > > > > Kris Browne > > Taylor Corporation Imprinting Group > > SGI/Unix System Administrator > > > > > > > Pacem in terris / Mir / Shanti / Salaam / Heiwa > Kevin R. Bullock > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list Spencer Butler Twin Cities Open Systems 6126368989 at voicestream.net | spencer at autonomous.tv http://tcos.stderr.net | http://autonomous.tv Key fingerprint = 173B 8760 E59F DBF8 6FD2 68F8 ABA2 AB08 49C7 4754 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20011116/71714e46/attachment.pgp