> help Please elaborate. :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> > To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:21 AM > Subject: tclug-list digest, Vol 1 #1671 - 16 msgs > > > > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Austad, Jay) > > 2. Re: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Jay Kline) > > 3. dpkg override (Timothy Wilson) > > 4. Re: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Florin Iucha) > > 5. Free -- Linux Journal Back Issues (andy at theasis.com) > > 6. Re: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Jack Ungerleider) > > 7. RE: Free -- Linux Journal Back Issues (James Spinti) > > 8. Re: dpkg override (Dave Sherohman) > > 9. RE: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Austad, Jay) > > 10. RE: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Austad, Jay) > > 11. Debian install (Shawn) > > 12. Re: dpkg override (Jim Crumley) > > 13. Re: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Nate Straz) > > 14. Re: new kernel and all reiserfs partitions (Nate Straz) > > 15. Backgrounding processes? (Simeon Johnston) > > 16. Re: dpkg override (Timothy Wilson) > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com> > > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:14:49 -0600 > > Subject: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > I'm trying to upgrade from Mandrake default 2.4.8 kernel to > 2.4.13. > > All > of > > my partitions are Reiserfs and mounted with the notails option. It > > works great with the default kernel, but when I boot with my new > > kernel, I get a kernel panic because it cannot find the root fs. > > > > I've tried compiling reiserfs support into the kernel, and > also tried > > it > as > > a module with an initrd image created with the --preload reiserfs > > option. I've also tried converting /boot to ext2 and that > doesn't work > > either. > > > > Does anyone have a clue why this would be happening? > > > > Jay > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > From: Jay Kline <list at slushpupie.com> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:08:50 -0600 > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > It will most certainly not work as a module if all your > partitions are > > reiserfs. It needs to be able to read the filesystem the > modules are > located > > on, and thus the kernel must have one fs built in, which should be > > your > root > > partition (and where your modules should be). Of course, there are > > always exceptions out there, but as a general rule, thats how it > > works. > > > > As for why you can boot with an all reiserfs, I had the > same trouble > > in 2.4.11+. I have not been able to get a single build on > my system > > to boot. So here I sit at 2.4.9 and am pretty happy thus > far. I have > > heard a few > other > > strange things with the newer kernels anyway. > > > > A little off topic, but has anyone noticed the absence of a > > development branch in the kernel? As a result, it seems > more bugs have > > poped up. > > > > Jay > > > > On Monday 19 November 2001 09:14 pm, you wrote: > > > I'm trying to upgrade from Mandrake default 2.4.8 kernel > to 2.4.13. > > > All > of > > > my partitions are Reiserfs and mounted with the notails > option. It > works > > > great with the default kernel, but when I boot with my > new kernel, I > > > get > a > > > kernel panic because it cannot find the root fs. > > > > > > I've tried compiling reiserfs support into the kernel, and also > > > tried it > as > > > a module with an initrd image created with the --preload reiserfs > option. > > > I've also tried converting /boot to ext2 and that doesn't work > > > either. > > > > > > Does anyone have a clue why this would be happening? > > > > > > Jay > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, > > > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > -- > > Jay Kline > > list at slushpupie.com > > http://www.slushpupie.com > > -- > > question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; > > -- Wm. Shakespeare > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:55:27 -0600 (CST) > > From: Timothy Wilson <wilson at visi.com> > > To: TCLUG <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com> > > Subject: [TCLUG] dpkg override > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > For some unknown reason (no doubt my fault), a past apt-get upgrade > produced > > a broken mailman installation. I eventually got mailman reinstalled > > (while keeping the existing mailing lists intact I might > add), but the > > CGI > scripts > > are gone. As a result, requests for > > http://my.humble.domain.org/mailman/listinfo/ go unanswered because > > there are no CGI scripts in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/. > > > > I downloaded mailman-2.0.7-1 and tried > > # dpkg -i --force-overwrite mailmanblahblahblah.deb > > > > hoping that the scripts would get reinstalled. No luck. > > > > What's the most elegant way to get this working? I don't want to > > delete my existing lists. > > > > -Tim > > > > -- > > Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: > > Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com > > W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org > > wilson at visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:14:22 -0600 > > From: "Florin Iucha" <florin at iucha.net> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > > --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:14:49PM -0600, Austad, Jay wrote: > > > I'm trying to upgrade from Mandrake default 2.4.8 kernel > to 2.4.13. > > > All > = > > of > > > my partitions are Reiserfs and mounted with the notails > option. It > works > > > great with the default kernel, but when I boot with my > new kernel, I > > > get > a > > > kernel panic because it cannot find the root fs. > > >=20 > > > I've tried compiling reiserfs support into the kernel, and also > > >tried it > = > > as > > > a module with an initrd image created with the --preload reiserfs > option. > > > I've also tried converting /boot to ext2 and that doesn't work > > >either. =20 Does anyone have a clue why this would be > happening? =20 > > > > The boot doesn't matter. The root fs type has to be built in the > > kernel, not as a module. > > > > florin > > > > --=20 > > > > "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is." > > > > 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4 > > > > --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua > > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (OpenBSD) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE7+eatNLPgdTuQ3+QRAjoFAJ9dJ/v4aEsyvKTkmsvkv9r7Q3QyAgCgi8oa > > AtRiwMIt+fDDEuY704U6rvE= > > =p//G > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:05:37 -0600 (CST) > > From: <andy at theasis.com> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: [TCLUG] Free -- Linux Journal Back Issues > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > > I have some back issues of Linux Journal that I need to > dump, due to > > space considerations. These include all of years 1997 > through 2000, as > > well as April, Sept, Nov, Dec 1996. > > > > I'm happy to give them away free to the TCLUG. > > > > First priority is a LUG library, if anyone is interested in > creating & > > maintaining one. > > > > Second priority is the first individual to express interest via > > private email (NOT the list), BUT... > > > > - I'd really like to part with all at once. > > - I don't want to bother with anything less than complete years. > > - You gotta come get them (at a mutually convenient location). > > > > Any that are not out of my house by about the first week of > December > > will be recycled. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 6 > > From: Jack Ungerleider <jack at jacku.com> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:38:34 -0600 > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > On Monday 19 November 2001 22:08, you wrote: > > > A little off topic, but has anyone noticed the absence of a > > > development branch in the kernel? As a result, it seems more bugs > > > have poped up. > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > Check out lwn.net for November 15. Its their lead story. > > > > > > -- > > Jack Ungerleider > > jack at jacku.com > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 7 > > From: "James Spinti" <jspinti at dart.dartdist.com> > > To: "Tclug-List" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] Free -- Linux Journal Back Issues > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:45:49 -0600 > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > I have space here at work where I could create a library. Only > > problem is that I am in Chaska, a bit outside the beaten > path. My own > > library is a > bit > > thin, but would be willing to make it accessible as well. > I do have the > > electronic versions of O'Reilly's Networking and Basic Unix library > > (DNS & Bind, TCP/IP, Building Internet Firewalls, Unix & Internet > > Security and Sendmail on one, vi, Unix in a Nutshell, sed & > awk, Korn > > shell and > Learning > > Unix on the other), which I would be willing to make part of the > > library. > > > > If someone is willing to do the programming of a web > interface and set > > up the database, I would be willing to handle the > mailing/retrieving > > of > loaned > > items. Besides, that way I could peruse more books without > having to > > buy them :) > > > > Thanks, > > > > James Spinti > > jspinti at dartdist.com > > 952-368-3278 x396 > > fax 952-368-3255 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > > [mailto:tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of andy at theasis.com > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:54 AM > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: [TCLUG] Free -- Linux Journal Back Issues > > > > > > > > I have some back issues of Linux Journal that I need to > dump, due to > > space considerations. These include all of years 1997 > through 2000, as > > well as April, Sept, Nov, Dec 1996. > > > > I'm happy to give them away free to the TCLUG. > > > > First priority is a LUG library, if anyone is interested in > creating & > > maintaining one. > > > > Second priority is the first individual to express interest via > > private email (NOT the list), BUT... > > > > - I'd really like to part with all at once. > > - I don't want to bother with anything less than complete years. > > - You gotta come get them (at a mutually convenient location). > > > > Any that are not out of my house by about the first week of > December > > will be recycled. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > > http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:27:07 -0600 > > From: Dave Sherohman <esper at sherohman.org> > > To: TCLUG <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com> > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] dpkg override > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0600, Timothy Wilson wrote: > > > For some unknown reason (no doubt my fault), a past > apt-get upgrade > produced > > > a broken mailman installation. I eventually got mailman > reinstalled > (while > > > keeping the existing mailing lists intact I might add), > but the CGI > scripts > > > are gone. As a result, requests for > > > http://my.humble.domain.org/mailman/listinfo/ go > unanswered because > there > > > are no CGI scripts in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/. > > > > > > I downloaded mailman-2.0.7-1 and tried > > > # dpkg -i --force-overwrite mailmanblahblahblah.deb > > > > Have you tried > > > > apt-get install --reinstall mailman > > > > ? > > > > -- > > When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists > > have already won. - reverius > > > > Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Mr. Slippery > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 9 > > From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com> > > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:42:36 -0600 > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > > The boot doesn't matter. The root fs type has to be built in the > > > kernel, not as a module. > > > > This is not true though. That's what the initrd (Initial > Ramdisk) is > > for. The initrd image is loaded into memory before the kernel, and > > when the kernel boots, it loads modules from the initrd > image (which > > is ext2, and > yes > > I have ext2 built into the kernel). Mandrake makes reiserfs as a > > module, and since it's loaded into their initrd image, I'm able to > > boot fine with it. > > > > But for some reason when compiling a new kernel, and making a new > > initrd image, I cannot boot. > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > florin > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is." > > > > > > 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4 > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 10 > > From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com> > > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:53:27 -0600 > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > Also, I've tried compiling reiserfs support into the kernel > also, not > > as a module. And I still have the same problem. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Florin Iucha [mailto:florin at iucha.net] > > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:14 PM > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:14:49PM -0600, Austad, Jay wrote: > > > > I'm trying to upgrade from Mandrake default 2.4.8 kernel to > > > 2.4.13. > > > > All of my partitions are Reiserfs and mounted with the > > > notails option. > > > > It works great with the default kernel, but when I boot with my > > > > new kernel, I get a kernel panic because it cannot find > the root > > > > fs. > > > > > > > > I've tried compiling reiserfs support into the kernel, and > > > also tried > > > > it as a module with an initrd image created with the --preload > > > > reiserfs option. I've also tried converting /boot to > ext2 and that > > > > doesn't work either. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a clue why this would be happening? > > > > > > The boot doesn't matter. The root fs type has to be built in the > > > kernel, not as a module. > > > > > > florin > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is." > > > > > > 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4 > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 11 > > From: Shawn <fertch at mninter.net> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:54:22 -0600 > > Subject: [TCLUG] Debian install > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > I'm going to be installing Debian stable (woody?) in the > next couple > > of > days > > on my firewall/gateway machine. Dual NIC's, Pentium 120, > 32MB ram. > > Is > there > > anything in particular I need to watch out for? > > > > I plan on running IPtables on this box instead of IPchains > also. No X > > windows. > > > > I've installed Mandrake, Slackware (my typical distro), > SuSe and tried > > one instance of RedHat 6.x but not a Debian install. Just > looking for > pointers, > > pitfalls to watch out for etc. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Shawn > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 12 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:10:31 -0600 > > From: Jim Crumley <crumley at belka.space.umn.edu> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] dpkg override > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0600, Timothy Wilson wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > For some unknown reason (no doubt my fault), a past > apt-get upgrade > produced > > > a broken mailman installation. I eventually got mailman > reinstalled > (while > > > keeping the existing mailing lists intact I might add), > but the CGI > scripts > > > are gone. As a result, requests for > > > http://my.humble.domain.org/mailman/listinfo/ go > unanswered because > there > > > are no CGI scripts in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/. > > > > > > I downloaded mailman-2.0.7-1 and tried > > > # dpkg -i --force-overwrite mailmanblahblahblah.deb > > > > > > hoping that the scripts would get reinstalled. No luck. > > > > > > What's the most elegant way to get this working? I don't want to > > > delete > my > > > existing lists. > > > > Did you try 'dpkg -r mailman; dpkg -i mailmanblahblahblah.deb' ? > > > > Removing with '-r' the package should leave all of your > config files > > intact, so when you reinstall your lists should be ready to go. Of > > course its a good idea to be safe and backup all of the > config files > > before hand. > > > > -- > > Jim Crumley |Twin Cities Linux Users Group > Mailing List > (TCLUG) > > crumley at fields.space.umn.edu |Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > Ruthless Debian Zealot |http://www.mn-linux.org/ > > Never laugh at live dragons |Free Dmitry Sklyarov - > http://faircopyright.org/ > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 13 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:21:49 -0600 > > From: Nate Straz <nate at techie.com> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:14:22PM -0600, Florin Iucha wrote: > > > The boot doesn't matter. The root fs type has to be built in the > > > kernel, not as a module. > > > > Not true. You just have to use an initial ramdisk (initrd) to load > > the module prior to mounting the root FS. It's the same as > if you had > > your scsi driver as a module. > > > > Nate > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 14 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:25:05 -0600 > > From: Nate Straz <nate at techie.com> > > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] new kernel and all reiserfs partitions > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:14:49PM -0600, Austad, Jay wrote: > > > I'm trying to upgrade from Mandrake default 2.4.8 kernel > to 2.4.13. > > > All > of > > > my partitions are Reiserfs and mounted with the notails > option. It > works > > > great with the default kernel, but when I boot with my > new kernel, I > > > get > a > > > kernel panic because it cannot find the root fs. > > [...] > > > Does anyone have a clue why this would be happening? > > > > At any time were you using devfs? > > > > Just a thought, > > > > Nate > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 15 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:34:51 -0600 > > From: "Simeon Johnston" <simeonuj at nssmgmt.com> > > To: "TCLUG (E-mail)" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: [TCLUG] Backgrounding processes? > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > I have been wondering about something lately and can't > figure it out. > > How do I background a process, say a kernel compile, so I > don't have > > to sit there and watch it i.e. log in - start process - log > out - log > > in later - find process done and everyones happy. > > > > How is this done? > > > > sim > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 16 > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:37:28 -0600 (CST) > > From: Timothy Wilson <wilson at visi.com> > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Cc: TCLUG <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com> > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] dpkg override > > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:55:27PM -0600, Timothy Wilson wrote: > > > > For some unknown reason (no doubt my fault), a past apt-get > > > > upgrade > produced > > > > a broken mailman installation. I eventually got mailman > > > > reinstalled > (while > > > > keeping the existing mailing lists intact I might add), but the > > > > CGI > scripts > > > > are gone. As a result, requests for > > > > http://my.humble.domain.org/mailman/listinfo/ go unanswered > > > > because > there > > > > are no CGI scripts in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/. > > > > > > > > I downloaded mailman-2.0.7-1 and tried > > > > # dpkg -i --force-overwrite mailmanblahblahblah.deb > > > > > > Have you tried > > > > > > apt-get install --reinstall mailman > > > > No luck. It still doesn't reinstall the contents of cgi-bin. > > > > -Tim > > > > -- > > Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: > > Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com > > W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org > > wilson at visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tclug-list mailing list > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > End of tclug-list Digest > > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. > Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-> linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >