Hi all, Hats off to the TC Linux User Group for the non-commercially driven and friendly atmosphere. The few meetings I have attended were focused on learning something and not selling something, but most importantly, enjoying good company. The TCLUG mailing list follows this feel and is very relaxed, friendly, and open. I've always wanted something similar for Java people, so I finally got motivated and started one. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcjug This TCJUG is entirely different than the TCJUG hosted by Intertech in Edina. That group isn't community controlled, has no mailing list, _no beer meetings_, and is focused on InterTech's interests rather than the local community's interests. The new Twin Cities Java User Group will be more social and informal, with a focus on getting to know each other and exchanging info first-hand. Oh, and, of course, occasional beer meetings. It will be more or less identical to the TCLUG, but with Java as the theme instead of Linux. I remember there being a large amount of Java developers at the last TCLUG meeting I was at, I hope all of you will join and bring the TCLUG's casual, friendly atmosphere to the new TCJUG. To subscribe send an email to tcjug-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Thanks, David Blevins