On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 06:10:12PM -0600, Bob Tanner wrote: > http://www.ayrnetworks.com/ yeah, sometime last year I saw the port of linux to Cisco routers (4000 series and higher) go across Freshmeat. dunno if this is exactly the same project; but it seems to be related. the bit that worries me about this company, is how closely they're keeping their source code, and how their white paper seems to be 'straddling the fence' with open & closed-source software. they talk a lot about integrating closed-source software with their linux distribution. I can understand where they're coming from; since they're probably a small company and it would be easy for Cisco (or some other competitor) to come along and undercut their technology. hopefully they aren't going to be problematic about their GPL obligations, like NuSphere and Abit were for a while. the paper is interesting where it discusses the differences between embedded routing OSes, and general-purpose UNIX routers. it's a pretty good argument and makes some sense of why Cisco is switching to x86-based boxes for their hardware lately. Linux probably has a way to go before it deals as well with a large number of interfaces, as IOS or some other OSes do; but at the moment it's reasonable to just throw more hardware at the problem (most of the time), since hardware is so ridiculously cheap these days. Carl. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com