this is not necessarily true. i've ordered my last 3 phone lines (yes here in minneapolis) w/o long distance i simply use my one rate cell phone to make calls long distance. you can explicitly request that there be no long distance service on a phone line. then you won't get it. this is great for parents buying the second line for their kids to insure that they're not ringing up massive long distance changes. it's commonly done for businesses that want to have a guest phone line but don't want people ringing up long-distance bills from the lobby. (granted you can do the same thing from a PBX) it sounds like your experiences have been more akin to slamming. when last we saw our hero (Thursday, May 09, 2002), Gabe Turner was madly tapping out: > On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:12:23PM -0400, Tim Wheeler wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > ====[ On Wednesday 08 May 2002 04:56 pm, Joseph Key wrote: ]==== > > > > I think I might dump my line at home for this thing. I'm sick > > > > of figuring out long distance charges for my 3 roomies, and > > > > our phone bill is like $80 a month now anyway. > > > > > > I'd just drop long distance from the phone and make everyone get > > > phone cards. You can get cards at Sam that work out to less then > > > 4 cents a min. > > > > I was curious about this. I have phone card (I believe it's from > > Sam's Club) that was bought at 2.5 cents/minute and recharges at > > 3.5 cents/minute. I've heard you have to pay a fee to not have a > > long distance carrier. I'm in college at the moment so I wouldn't > > know. > > > > Tim > > Well, my only experience is with Qwest. In actuality, _someone_ has > to be your long-distance carrier. If you don't pick anyone, Qwest > just charges you somewhere in the neighborhood of $.50 - $.60 per > minute for long distance calls. They don't charge you any extra > fees. > -- steve ulrich sulrich at botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC