<troll food> I know, everything that can be done with GUI's can be done 4 times faster and 15 times better in CLI. </troll food> I got the chance to see OSX in action a couple of weeks ago. And it is really beautiful. At the time I was still using KDE 2 and had extreme GUI envy. I was thinking of buying a laptop, and I thought, iBook. Now with KDE 3 (RH 7.3) the story is different. On my 550 MHz machine it works wonderfully. So instead of having to buy a recent laptop, I can now look for a lappy in the 600 MHz range that will do just fine. Why spend 2000 USD if I can spend 500 and get everything that OSX has to offer. Samir M. Nassar -- RedConcepts.NET -- Open Solutions Design Syndicate Open Source, Public Service -- the Art and Craft of Webdesign http://redconcepts.net -- http://os-ds.com 'Open Source, Open Systems, Open Borders, Open Minds'