don't know if it is available here, but i had speakeasy in Cleveland
Ohio for years and loved it... no crappy pppoe either! I had a regular
DSL modem. (it didn't get the IP address)

www.speakeasy.net


On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 13:34, Adam Maloney wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 12:27, Mark Courtney wrote:
> > >From my shopping experience, if you get only a single static IP, the IP
> > belongs to the dsl router.  This can still be useful if you do port
> > forwarding with the dsl router and forward the ports to a machine
> > internally.  This feature may or may not be supported by your current dsl
> > router.
> > 
> With most DSL nowadays, the router is doing PPP, so it gets the IP
> address.  The cisco's and ActionTec's (used with Qwest-based DSL) can
> handle NAT or routing a block of IP's.  So if you need a real, public
> internet IP, and the cisco's port-forwarding features won't work, then
> you'll need to pay your ISP for a block of IP's.
> 
> I've heard of people that have put the cisco into bridging mode (just
> using it as an ATM->Ethernet bridge), and ran PPP through it from their
> (Linux) PC (hey, this thread just became On-Topic!)  This is probably
> VERY unsupported with most ISP's though.  And I'm not sure what
> equipment Frontier is using, but I'd bet it's not the Cisco 600 series. 
> But maybe you (Troy) can find a way to do this using your equipment.
> 
> Actually, there is an ISP in town that does DSL through TDS Telecom
> (a.k.a. Bridgewater, in Monticello/Big Lake).  Their customers buy a
> speedstream DSL modem (NOT a router), and run the built-in WinXP PPP
> client (for those customers that have XP), which handles the
> authentication/IP assignment.
> 
> 
> > If you want a single usable static IP for a computer on the LAN side of
> > the router, I think you might have to get a block of 8 IPs (5 are usable).
> >  I'm not a Cisco wizard, so if I'm wrong here, my feelings won't be hurt
> > if somebody corrects me.
> > 
> > I'm just tryin' to share some knows in hopes that somebody will gimme an
> > answer to my "sendmail time warp" thread.
> > 
> > 
> > Mark Courtney
> > 
> > http://www.MarkCourtney.com
> > 
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> > 
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > I have been using Covad DSL very happily for a year and
> > > a half at 1.5mb/128kb for $50/mo. I would like to get a
> > > static IP address for a few reasons, so I looked at their
> > > upgrade options. I can get 1.5mb/256mb and 1 static IP
> > > for $70/mo, but I have been told I have to use their NAT
> > > (on the DSL router). This is NOT what I want. For $80/mo
> > > I can get the same bandwidth and 5 static IPs and not
> > > have to use their NAT. That and they say I have to cancel
> > > my current DSL, and when it is "totally cancelled" they can
> > > order the new service (which I interpret as "there will be
> > > a delay between the end and start of the services, and
> > > we don't know how long that will be").
> > >
> > > Now, that may be true, but it make me want to look for
> > > other options. I looked at speakeasy.net, and they look
> > > nice, but I wanted to ask here first:
> > >
> > > Is there anybody using a DSL service with a static IP at
> > > around this price range and do you like it?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Troy
> > >
> > 
> > 
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