One more I forgot....and the most important....and kind of a plug...not sure if it would be considered a UNIX app but there is a remake of the BBS classic Legend of the Red Dragon....it is called legend of the green dragon....open source runs with php and mysql I think....find it on sourceforge play it at lotgd.net...by far one of my favorite games....brings me back to the good ol' days Dan Lansing _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list