I haven't located the battery yet...im doing this at work and didn't have any ESD bags for parts...i brought some today as well as real tools so I should be able to locate it....i believe them when they say it is soldered in because I found replacement batteries for other Winbook models online and most required soldering Dan Lansing ITSC Have you had it apart? They probably just told you it was soldered on because they don't want you opening it up. a soldered on battery just seems like a really dumb idea to me. I've had a few laptops apart and I've soldered my own laptop boards but I don't think I'd be comfortable soldering someone else's. Tom Penney <blots at visi.com> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list