You are once again reading and interpreting as you want it to be, rather than what I really said. I care very much about my users' privacy. I require a warrant or subpoena, signed by a judge, to give out information, and would check out the validity of the law enforcement that shows up to carry it out. I would not give out information to the RIAA based on an invokation of the DMCA. I would require law enforcement to present me with a warrant or subpoena issued by a judge. I do not recognize an RIAA-issued subpoena as valid, since it doesn't meet either criteria. If the RIAA raises a stink about this, then they will need to speak with our lawyers. This is precisely what Verizon did. The point I was actually making was that, with proper documentation (outlined above, DMCA aside, as in my original context before it was mutilated), the alternative is to be arrested and have the feds forcibly remove my equipment and take it to a lab to get what they want. I have to serve all of my customers, not just the l33t h4x0rs and music pirates. On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 14:24, Matthew S. Hallacy wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 08:36:12AM -0500, Adam Maloney wrote: > > > That said, if law enforcement shows up with a warrant, they get > > precisely what the warrant outlines. Probably after ID checked and > > photocopied, and badges verified with the appropriate agencies. > > > > I'm glad Sihope cares so much about its users privacy. </sarcasm> > > When the RIAA came looking for names, did you blindly cave in to them > as well? Verizon didn't: > > http://news.com.com/2100-1023-960838.html?tag=cd_mh > > As a business owner, I expect my privacy to be protected. Instead of blindly > accepting a piece of paper, maybe you should consider what the law actually is > and do your best to make sure that it is, in fact, legal. > > > > Breaking laws because you don't agree with them is fine for dirty > > hippies smoking the magic dragon in a VW bus, but civil disobedience has > > little place in business, and is best left to said hippies (they're > > expendable). Stupid dirty hippies. > > Exactly the reason Sihope would never get my business. Companies and > individuals alike need to be aware of their rights, and make sure they're > being protected. Not throw them away at the drop of a hat. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list