You just have to import the music from the iPod. Its stashed in a hidden folder with munged file names but most music managers will let you rename the files when you import them using the meta data embedded in the .mp3. In Windows you just have to go into Explorer->Tools->Folder Options->View and enable Show Hidden Files and Folders. This is mostly useful if your disk crashes since otherwise you have the files in the iTunes Library. Linux doesn't care about the hidden attribute so you can just mount it, find the directory and copy over the music. If you have a bunch of stuff from the iTunes store the easiest thing to do is grab a copy of jHymn, copy all of the .m4p files to a subdirectory, drag them into jHymn, and then re-import the .m4a files without the DRM wrapper. Right now jHymn doesn't work with iTunes 6.0 or above so if you've upgraded the only option is to mark the protected files, burn them to CD and the rip them again. And before I started, I'd back everything up. In iTunes you can select all of the songs in the library, drag them to the playlist pane and then ask iTunes to burn that playlist to a data CD or DVD. It will happily ask you to keep inserting disks until everything is copied. --rick Dave Alanis wrote: > I think you guys are missing the point. How will he recover the music he has on his Ipod? If he uses another music manager wont this delete the music he has on there now? > > This was my only reason to maintaining the *dual boot option* > > > On Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:41 AM, Bob Gilbertson wrote: >> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 06:41:48 -0500 >> From: Bob Gilbertson >> To: >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Considering dumping windows >> >> I second this. Been down the multi boot road. Also have tried wine. >> My experience, wine works fine for apps listed on codeweavers site, can >> be frustrating for others. Virtualization is best I've found yet. >> >> Grab the free vmplayer from VM Ware. Create virtual machine from site >> like easyvmx http://www.easyvmx.com/. Start VM, install windows. >> >> Windows seems to boot faster and be more stable in VM than natively :) >> >> A side note. If you want to try a new distro Live CD without rebooting, >> set the boot order in VM bios to boot CD first and point CDrom to iso >> file (a >> setting in VM). >> >> Isaac Atilano wrote: >> >>> I did the dual/quad, etc. booting for some time and I finally got sick >>> of waiting for reboots. If you're using Windows apps for school and you >>> have a decent system, I urge you to consider virtualization. Each >>> virtual disk and machine is just a file that resides on your normal >>> filesystem. You can then install any number of operating systems and run >>> them on Linux. You can even save their states so you don't have to >>> shutdown/reboot these virtual machines when you close them. I use qemu >>> to create the virtual disks, and vmware-player to run the virtual >>> machines. I especially find it handy when I vpn to work since the vpn >>> software is Windows only. >>> Just a note: Wine has been around a lot longer than WoW and is great for >>> some apps (e.g. that don't require virtual drivers) but when it comes to >>> games, I've never had it work right. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original message ----- >>> From: "Dave Alanis" <SDALAN04 at smumn.edu> >>> To: "Matt Waters" <wate0155 at metnet.edu>, tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 20:27:35 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Considering dumping windows >>> >>> Hello Matt: >>> >>> I have also gone through the stage of wanting to diminish Windows from >>> daily use. However, some Windows applications make school alot easier. >>> >>> As an Ipod owner, I have not had alot of time looking for ways to >>> support it through Linux. When I did look for alternatives there were >>> non at the time. >>> >>> If you dont want to loose what you have on there now, you might want to >>> consider a dual booting with Windows. >>> >>> There have been times that I totally blow Windows and just run off an ld >>> Gentoo installation on my laptop. When they were times I needed to run >>> *programs* I emerged Wine and was able to continue using them with no >>> problem. >>> >>> Correct me if I am wrong, I thought that wine was made specifically for >>> users who wanted to run World of Warcraft under Linux. >>> >>> Af far as tranfering all your files from your Ipod you should have no >>> problem (as long as you can boot from USB) I have used my Ipod to >>> install Mac OS X on my HP but yes you can access it under Linux as well. >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> On Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:48 PM, Matt Waters wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 19:48:04 -0500 >>>> From: Matt Waters >>>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> Subject: [tclug-list] Considering dumping windows >>>> >>>> Hello, everyone. I'm rather new to this list and don't have a lot of >>>> recent experience with Linux, so please forgive me if I sound dense. >>>> >>>> Anyway, as the subject of this post says, I wanna put some serious >>>> distance between myself and windows. My two big concerns are that I am >>>> badly addicted to World of Warcraft, and the fact that I have an iPod. I >>>> have a subscription to Transgaming's Cedega, so I don't anticipate much >>>> trouble there, however, the iPod issue is a serious one, as I plan on >>>> using it to transfer my personal data to a new Linux installation, as >>>> well as the fact that I am rather fond of it as a portable music player. >>>> Any ideas or advice on getting either one, or both to work with Debian >>>> (I used to run a functioning Debian mail server many years ago, so I'm >>>> at least somewhat familiar with it) would be most appreciated. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre >>> Minds" - Einstein >>> >>> "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds" - Einstein > > "Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro!" > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list